File size too huge vs original - Minimum bitrate limit

SullyPanda76us escrito el 05.07.AM a las 06:14 horas

Hi (searched + googled before posting question)

In this world of super 4 and 8k, we work on light videos for WA distribution.

I get source material via WA, made (very few) editing in VPX, and exported size is much bigger than source.

My sources have like 200kb/s (320x240), but VPX export won't let me set anything lower than 500 kb/s:

Media info of source:

General
Complete name                            : D:\rdzVideos\aa4b.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42 (mp42/isom)
File size                                : 14.8 MiB
Duration                                 : 6 min 27 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 321 kb/s

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Baseline@L1.2
Format settings                          : 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : No
Format settings, Reference frames        : 1 frame
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 6 min 27 s
Bit rate                                 : 193 kb/s
Width                                    : 320 pixels
Height                                   : 240 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.101
Stream size                              : 8.93 MiB (60%)
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 6 min 26 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 126 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 160 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 5.78 MiB (39%)

Mediainfo rendered with above settings:

General
Complete name                            : D:\rdzVideos\VideoPro\PapaHist_320x240x25_p2.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/avc1)
File size                                : 32.7 MiB
Duration                                 : 6 min 27 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 708 kb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-07-05 02:57:04
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-07-05 02:57:04

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.1
Format settings                          : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames        : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=25
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 6 min 27 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 605 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 999 kb/s
Width                                    : 320 pixels
Height                                   : 240 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 25.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.315
Stream size                              : 28.0 MiB (86%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-07-05 02:57:04
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-07-05 02:57:04
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.601 NTSC
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.601
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.601
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 6 min 27 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 98.8 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Frame rate                               : 43.066 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 4.57 MiB (14%)
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-07-05 02:57:04
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-07-05 02:57:04

Thanks for any idea!

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johnebaker escrito el 05.07.AM a las 11:31 horas

@SullyPanda76us

Hi

This is a common issue met with putting videos on WA - to get video down to such a low bitrate so as to fit in the maximum file size for > approx 4 mins of video, it is necessary to use a third party converter.

John EB

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