Alpha Masks do not appear in Mediapool folders

Scenestealer wrote on 28/10/2014, 22:43

Hi

I am not sure if this is unique to my installation of MEP2013, 2014 Premium but the Alpha masks that are installed with the program do not appear in the Mediapool. All I can see are the HD and SD folders with nothing inside visible, unless I navigate to them via Windows explorer where they display OK. They function correctly via the Add Effect Mask function in a specific effect, but it is nice to see them displayed so I can drag and drop one if I am designing an effect or something.

Anyone found the same thing as I am seeing and developed a way to make them display in the effects menu or folder tree view in the import tab?

Thanks

Peter

 

Last changed by Scenestealer on 28/10/2014, 22:43, changed a total of 1 times.

System Specs: Intel 6th Gen i7 6700K 4Ghz O.C.4.6GHz, Asus Z170 Pro Gaming MoBo, 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM, Samsung 850 EVO 512GB SSD system disc WD Black 4TB HDD Video Storage, Nvidia GTX1060 OC 6GB, Win10 Pro 1903, MEP2016, 2020 Premium and prior, VPX7, VPX11. Microsoft Surface Pro3 i5 4300U 1.9GHz Max 2.6Ghz, HDGraphics 4400, 4GB Ram 128GB SSD + 64GB Strontium Micro SD card, Win 10Pro 1903, MEP2015 Premium.

Comments

terrypin wrote on 28/10/2014, 23:37

Hi Peter,

Same here. It's always puzzled me. There are a few other empty ones too, I recall; I'll check tomorrow.

johnebaker wrote on 29/10/2014, 14:49

Hi Peter

Same here including MEP 2014.

To get round this issueI I created a Resources folder which holds all my Masks, Alpha images, music, video loops etc as shown below and copied the masks from Magix into this folder.

 

HTH

John

Last changed by johnebaker on 29/10/2014, 14:51, changed a total of 2 times.

Lateral thinking can get things done!

VPX, MEP Premium, MEP 2016, and earlier versions, Music Maker Premium, Music Maker 2016, 2015.

Running Windows 10 64bit on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16Gb RAM, 1Tb + 2 x 2Tb internal HDD + 60Gb internal SSD, + 6 x 2Tb ext HDDs, Sony FDR-AX53 Video camera, Contour HD 1080 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

terrypin wrote on 29/10/2014, 17:51

There are a few other empty ones too, I recall; I'll check tomorrow.

I did so and here's the list of other empty folders I found in MEP 2014 Premium:

Import > VideoEffects > Style effects > Collage - Slide (16:9)

Import > VideoEffects > Style effects > No effects

Import > VideoEffects > Style effects > Random effects and music

Import > VideoEffects > Style effects > UserDefinedStyle_001

Import > VideoEffects > Style effects > UserDefinedStyle_010

Import > VideoEffects > Style effects > UserDefinedStyle_011

Import > VideoEffects > Style effects > UserDefinedStyle_014

Import > VideoEffects > UniversalFX > MapEffects

Scenestealer wrote on 29/10/2014, 23:06

Hi John and Terry

Thanks for looking at that.

I initially tried the Rt. Click>Create Folder Link to the original location but the same empty folder resulted.

I then tried the same thing after copying the masks into a new folder as John has done and now they are all available as a new link from the Import Tab, non folder tree view, for easy access.

Terry - I see the same thing as you on those other folders so I guess you could do the same as above. 

Kind of strange though!

Cheers

Peter

Last changed by Scenestealer on 29/10/2014, 23:06, changed a total of 1 times.

System Specs: Intel 6th Gen i7 6700K 4Ghz O.C.4.6GHz, Asus Z170 Pro Gaming MoBo, 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM, Samsung 850 EVO 512GB SSD system disc WD Black 4TB HDD Video Storage, Nvidia GTX1060 OC 6GB, Win10 Pro 1903, MEP2016, 2020 Premium and prior, VPX7, VPX11. Microsoft Surface Pro3 i5 4300U 1.9GHz Max 2.6Ghz, HDGraphics 4400, 4GB Ram 128GB SSD + 64GB Strontium Micro SD card, Win 10Pro 1903, MEP2015 Premium.

browj2 wrote on 30/10/2014, 16:03

Gentlemen,

I have purchased 2015 Premium, just to get the RG and NB plugins. I still have everything set up as per the initial installation and I'm going through making screen shots of the various media pool folders - the ones with icons, not just dialogue boxes. Next I'll populate my spreadsheet with the names of the effects files, etc., to know what came with the program.

That said, I took a look at the folders mentioned by all of you and confirm the same in MEP2014 Plus. I had noticed before that the masks were not avalable under Import and made a copy under Documents/Magix and added in my own subfolders and additional files so that I could access them from the Import tab. I didn't go quite as far as John, but similar. I have a lot of files under "C:\Users\Public\Documents\MAGIX\Common" including sounds, music, stock photos, videos, effects, etc. purchased or obtained from Magix and Catooh. I added folders under Import to navigate directly to them.

I took a quick look at 2015 Premium and it has the same pattern. HD and SD show up in the import tab but with no details for masks.

I went through Terry's list, looking at Windows Explorer (WE) at the same time as the Import tab and I noticed a few strange things.

Here are some of the results.

TREE DISAPPEARS

First observation is that the tree disappears from the left column in the Media Pool when I get to ".......\VideoEffects" and does not come back until I go back up to what they call "Workspace" which shows my computer drives.

FOLDER NAMES DIFFERENT IN IMPORT TAB AND WE

The folder names in MEP and WE are not always the same. See next 2 screen shots.

For example, how does "One click.." become "1-click?"

How do folders show up that are not in Windows Explorer?

FOLDERS NOT THE SAME

Import > VideoEffects > Style effects >

When I open "Collage - Slide (16:9)," the path at the top of the screen says .......Styles\Schiebepuzzle instead of Collage...

In WE, I do not see a folder for Collages directly under Styles, but Schiebepuzzle is listed. Collages comes under Components and is also at a higher level directly under "..\VideoEffects" in WE

Many of the folder names are not the same in the Media Pool as in WE.

Note the list in the image and compare it to the WE folders below:

Note also that clicking on "Style effects" in the Media pools produces "...\Styles" in the path indicator at the top of the screen.

Etc.

Somehow MEP detects these things when one navigates to the program folders for the program that is open, i.e. MEP2015 or MEP2014, and does something to the Import file paths, probably to protect files and folders from inadverent changes or misuse, or something else.

To see that this only happens to the folders in the open program, with MEP2014 open, under the Import tab navigate to the same locations under MEP2013. You will see all of the folders and files as per WE. For example, you will see all of the masks.

 

 

 

Last changed by browj2 on 30/10/2014, 16:03, changed a total of 1 times.

John C.B.

Desktop System - Windows 10 Home 1903; 16Gb RAM; i7 CPU 860@2.80Gz; ATI Radeon HD5770 w1GB; SSD 500GB, HD 2TB; others 1.5TB, 3TB, 500GB, 4TB, 5TB, 6TB; dual monitors - 27" main, 25" secondary; Casio WK-225 piano keyboard; M-Audio M-Track USB mixer; Notebook - Microsoft Surface Pro 4, i5, 8 GB RAM, 256 SSD, W10 Pro 1903

terrypin wrote on 30/10/2014, 16:45

Hi John,

The reason for the mis-match of names is down to exactly the same good intention of MAGIX to display meaningful names, using a translation.ini fie, as I described in my recent Collages guide.

Unfortunately, as you've discovered, it sometimes increases rather than reduces confusion

 

Or for better quality: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/MEP-Folder-Names.jpg

 

browj2 wrote on 30/10/2014, 17:18

Hi Terry,

Right, then that means that the Media pool explorer detects the translation.ini file when one navigates to the folder, which I find strange. I can understand this happening under the other tabs, Fades, Titles and Effects, but I would have thought that they Import tab would ignore the translation files. As I pointed out, it ignores them when you navigate to the same folders in a previous version using a later version of MEP.

I have to look back, but I ran across a problem with the names, both with the folder names and those in the ini files and I couldn't figure out how and where to copy files from previous version to the new version. The structure seemed to be different. I will let you know if I find what I was trying to do.

Thanks,

Last changed by browj2 on 30/10/2014, 17:18, changed a total of 1 times.

John C.B.

Desktop System - Windows 10 Home 1903; 16Gb RAM; i7 CPU 860@2.80Gz; ATI Radeon HD5770 w1GB; SSD 500GB, HD 2TB; others 1.5TB, 3TB, 500GB, 4TB, 5TB, 6TB; dual monitors - 27" main, 25" secondary; Casio WK-225 piano keyboard; M-Audio M-Track USB mixer; Notebook - Microsoft Surface Pro 4, i5, 8 GB RAM, 256 SSD, W10 Pro 1903

terrypin wrote on 30/10/2014, 17:26

Hi John,

It is indeed all rather confusing! I wouldn't like to estimate how much time I've spent poking around in the obscure corners of MEP trying to work out what's going on. It's one of the reasons I'm reluctant to switch to MEP 2015, now that I have things under reasonable control in 2014 - albeit heavily tweaked, customised and sprinkled with macros.

So I'm afraid that I won't be much help to you with 2015 specific issues.