Interesting. Does anyone use the Project Temp Folder (PTF), other than me? I should have started a new thread for this.

Other uses for the PFT:

1. Finding a clip or clips on the timeline that are in the PTF;
2. Switching to a Movie from the PTF when there are many movie tabs being used and the tabs are too small to read or you have to scroll;
3. With a film imported from a DV camera or VHS or scanned film from 8mm/S8mm reels broken up into scenes, usually with different subjects in the same import (vacation, birthday, concert), insert scenes that would go into different movies into movie folders by subject for later use in creating projects, without creating various movies in the project. No need for takes. The PTF can be saved, and imported into another project, the unneeded movie folders tossed and the clips in the subject movie used in the project, that is, use the clips in the folder to build the project. Open another project, use its associated material. More than one PTF file can be opened in a project;
4. Using the search box to find something in a long list;
5. Using Scene and Take fields - I've never used these fields.

John CB

The PTF is basically the source browser in other apps. I'm guessing bins are still limited to one level without nesting, then.

What you're describing is pretty basic and other NLEs do this without forcing you to live with the source browser open.

That source browser exposes the actual file ayatem, so it's unusable for things like creating subclips and renaming clips without actually renaming the files on the HDD.

The organizational flexibility is invaluable.

Will check this myself, later.

@Ancien utilisateur

No, the PTF is not the source browser. The source browser is the one in the Media Pool under Import. Please re-read what I wrote.

Tried to use effects from the hitfilm cinema style pack, but everything in the preview monitor is black. Am I doing something wrong og is it a bug? Vegas Stabilization plugins also shows an error message when I try to use it.

@cnitteberg

Hi,

For the HitFilm Cinema style pack, did you try a different video mode under Program settings, Display options, Video mode, like Compatibility mode or Alternative mode?

For Vegas Stabilization, do you get the same message that I do?

John CB

@browj2 Yes I get the same error message as you do. As for the Hitfilm problem. I switched to Alternative Mode 2 and that solved it, but the response in the hitfilm effect interface was very slow especially when I tried the Lens Flare effect.

Thanks for helping me out!

I also have this problem that the sound keeps playing for a second after I stop playback. The video stops, but the audio keeps playing for around 1 second after.

@cnitteberg

This may be hardware related as it mentions incompatibility so check you are on the very latest Graphics Drivers for Intel and Nvidia GPUs.

Peter

Well I took the plunge and updated with no problem although a box came up telling me my update service was outdated and needed to pay another $149.00
I knew this wasn't the case so I continued.
I read someone mention the new engine made Neat video faster to preview.
It is no better in my case so is there a setting I am missing.
I have to disable all plugins to get smooth playback which makes adjustments difficult.
Doug.

Is it just me or does the new Video stabilization do absolutely nothing.
It's a shame they dropped the original image stabilization for one that doesn't work.
Looks like it's back to the good old VPX 7 for that job.
So far everything else is working fine for my work load although there are still problems that have been around since the release of VPX 8.
Nothing is any faster for me but no freezing or crashing so far. "Looking Good"
I just hope they don't break something with the first update.
Doug
 

VEGAS' new stabilization was better than the old stabilization, but it wasn't super good. Don't think it's going to be as good as Mercalli, or what's in some other Pro NLEs (using my experience with it as a reference).

What type of CPU/GPU do you have, and what kind of footage are you editing?

@Ancien utilisateur
Not sure of the all specs but it is i7 7700T 16gb ram, 2.9gb processor all in one.
It is irreverent because image stabilization has always worked for me and it is far bigger than Magix specify..
It is only used for gopro 50fps gimbal footage which is normally good enough on its own but needs a bit of extra work to smooth out some of the walking motion.
I can't work the new one out with the zoom,up and down settings and what preset is needed for stabilization.
The help menu isn't very helpful.
I think I have a Newblue one in the system somewhere so I may try that as well.
VPX 7 is still fine to process the few bits I need.
Doug

@cnitteberg

This may be hardware related as it mentions incompatibility so check you are on the very latest Graphics Drivers for Intel and Nvidia GPUs.

Peter

I updated my Nvidia graphicsdriver to latest version, but that didn`t help. So I sent a support request to Magix with screenshot of the error message. I hope they will help me out.

@DugsBugs

Hi Doug

. . . Is it just me or does the new Video stabilization do absolutely nothing. . . .

Vegas stabilisation works for me.

I compared the stabilisation of 2 clips with Vegas Stabilisation vs Mercalli using the default settings, the Mercalli was done in MEP with v2 as I do not have v4 installed, the results are shown below

As you can see the zoom is more aggressive and rotation control is much better than Mercalli.

A bonus is you can cut a clip after stabilisation and it does not require re-stabilising.

John EB

@johnebaker
Thanks John.
I tried mercelli 2 as well and like you I need to re install mercelli 4 to try.
I guess I get a bit annoyed by the sample videos Magix give to make the product out to be better than it is.
The old stabilizer was fine for most applications. certainly for my needs.
I need to re visit my gimbal technique then I won't need the stabilization.
Doug

@DugsBugs

Hi Doug

. . . Is it just me or does the new Video stabilization do absolutely nothing. . . .

Vegas stabilisation works for me.

I compared the stabilisation of 2 clips with Vegas Stabilisation vs Mercalli using the default settings, the Mercalli was done in MEP with v2 as I do not have v4 installed, the results are shown below

As you can see the zoom is more aggressive and rotation control is much better than Mercalli.

A bonus is you can cut a clip after stabilisation and it does not require re-stabilising.

John EB

The rotation control will be much better with more zooming. That gives you more room to move the frame to stabilize it.

You can increase this in Mercalli. It just isn't the default.

Vegas stabilization saves MAGIX money, so they should use it. It allows them to divert that funding to other, better value adds, like Titler Pro 6 😉

In the example used there the Vegas Stabilisation looks to have retained more detail than the Mercalli V2. I have compared the two with some old handycam footage I was digitizing (still no DV stream support) and Mercalli V2 gave me much better results. Also tried out the 360 stabilisation, for some reason it tries to adjust the seam in pre stitched footage when it should just adjust the roll pitch and yaw so it's not very good. Maybe it's intended for using with 360 footage overcaptured in a standard video.

Additional Bug - Reminder so that I don't forget to add it to the list:

VPX11 - Titler Pro 6 - Adding a title to a video object that has effects or has effects added to it also affect the Titler Pro 6 title. They should not. Workaround: apply the title to a transparent png file and overlay it on the background.

John CB

Hi everyone. I upgraded to VPX11 about two weeks ago. This is the most updated version of the program, right? To download patches and such, you'd have to go to "Update Online" under the Help option, right? I'm downloading a VPX patch right now (Version: 15.0.3.130), but something tells me I shouldn't be.

The current version is 17.0.1.27
You need a current upgrade subscription to do any updates.
The version you mention is very old and is not VPX 11. More like VPX 8 which you will want to cut your wrists trying to use it.
Try to download the current version through Magix website and choose upgrade if you are already registered.
You will need to pay for another 12 months upgrade service if yours has expired.
Doug

Thanks so much for the reply. Yeah, I figured the patch was for an older version. I have the most updated one currently. I was looking for something to remedy all the crashes I’ve been experiencing. Turns out that it’s just my workflow. I went back in shot by shot and deleted all the effects for the feature film I’m working on. Took all day, but it’s smooth as butter now.

VPX 8, 9 an a lot of 10 were renowned for crashing.
Some of the later VPX 10 patches were pretty good after about v16.0.1.268
The latest is good but still has issues. I think that will always be the case for such a complex program.
Doug

I have installed and experimented with VPX11 now and am impressed so far.

The new "Engine" is an improvement but I have found that it considerably increases activity on the Intel GPU in the process. Whereas in VPX9 I would get the smoothest "timeline preview in the arranger" playing UHD footage with added effects, with the Nvidia GTX1060 selected in the Program Settings, I now find I need to select the Intel HD530 graphics option for the best experience.

Vegas stabilisation works quite well although initially it did not seem to be doing anything. At this stage without being familiar with the adjustments in Vegas I would prefer to use Mercalli V4, but I do like the fact that Vegas stabilised footage can be further trimmed without need in to re-analyse the whole clip, as John EB noted.

One thing I have a problem with is that the Auto Exposure and Auto Colour buttons in Video Effects do not have any effect at all. Can someone else confirm this please?

Peter

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter

. . . . the Auto Exposure and Auto Colour buttons in Video Effects do not have any effect at all . . . .

No problems here - I have zipped up and put 4 still images which show various levels of change when using Auto Exposure or Auto Colour here for you to try.

HTH

John EB