Hi John,

Hi Terry,

I took a quick look at the titles. The effects for Ticker1 are simply those under the General heading of a title - Arial 36, white, Animation - from right to left, 5.0s, etc., and the information is embedded in the txf flle. There are no keyframes required. You change the effects on the General window.

Yes, I know, but intuitively I would have expected to see KFs when anything but None was selected.

But, how exactly did you get the scrolling title to stop? What editor do you use to view the files like tfx, cfx, etc?

You just switch it to None (no animation) and then apply animation in the usual way, via Size/Position KFs.

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Hi Terry,

So, no way to keep the built-in scrolling effect and then get it to stop with a kf. Thus, the effects that are on the Title General screen are ones that do not require kf's because they are just fairly simple built-in effects.

For example, the Ticker1 titlebox can be moved higher on the screen just by dragging it and no keyframe is created. The location shows up in the position effect. But if you want the box to move around, then kf's are needed. I tried this and what was interesting is that the movement indicated on the Title General screen is for the text within the text box, and not the box itself. I had not understood this. If you make the box narrower, the text will scroll across the box but not off the screen. No kf is required because the textbox doesn't move. So the kf is actually controlling the box and not the text, so far as I can tell.

I tried the 360 left rotation title, and it shows the kf's used to make it.

I think I have a better understanding about how these work now. You?

Regards,

"No kf is required because the textbox doesn't move. So the kf is actually controlling the box and not the text, so far as I can tell."

I'm thinking that a very cleverly designed kfa could start the box moving at exactly the right time and speed, in the opposite direction to the text, and the resulting text display would become stationary!

Thinking (?), not yet doing,

Carl

Hi Carl and Terry,

Carl, interesting thought. I tried out a few things. Couldn't get the text to become stationary. If animation is chosen, the text scrolls through the textbox and disappears no matter what, even if the box moves.

I looked at another title example, simple text, scrolling from top to bottom. The box becomes the height of the screen and the text scrolls down and out of the box. The box can be changed, but the text disappears when it hits the edge of the box.

I looked at the 3D scrolling text. It has an animation from bottom to top, an alpha effect with a mask and a 3D distortion with a 3D tilt left. I don't know exactly what the tilts do other than that the tilt left has to be checked for the effect to work as planned. The others tilts seem to make it square. I did not find any documentation on the tilts. Have either of you seen anything on this?

Regards,

John,

Thanks for checking my stationary proposal. Pity it doesn't work. :-(

I'd assume the tilt is to give the 3D perspective. No perspective straight at view is 2D.

Busy here, no Teryy, not having a morning red!

Carl

Hi John

So, no way to keep the built-in scrolling effect and then get it to stop with a kf.

Maybe I've misunderstood you, but yes, there is a way. You do it as I outlined earlier:
"You just switch it to None (no animation) and then apply animation in the usual way, via Size/Position KFs."

That keeps say the default text font style etc of the default 'Ticker1', but 'stops it with a kf'.

But I'd only use one of these built-in types if it met my requirement exactly. Otherwise I would either simply start from scratch or use one of the many additional titles I've added. A check shows I currently have 86 under Standard, 66 more than the installed 20. (Many are special effects rather than standard titles, but it's convenient to keep them here.) That's MEP 2013 but 2014 will be similar. For example:

Or for better quality: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/MEP-Titles-Customising-1.jpg

Unlike my earlier query about CFX, my original question here was driven by curiosity rather than a real need!

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

But it can!

John,

Thanks for checking my stationary proposal. Pity it doesn't work. :-(

 

Carl, John,

But it does! Seemed logical to me and a bit of trial/error produced this:

Using a 12 second title I started with KFs for t=0 and t=12 of -1920 and 1920 respectively but that crept rightwards. Eventually settled on -1800 and 1800 respectively.

Although not the most gripping news flash, could be useful for general tiltles/captions.

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK