Thanks for the quick response John

I don't know why the 10 is there. This is the 2020 version of Movie Edit Pro.

Here's a little video. You can just hear the fanfare inserted into the audio track. It doesn't matter which transition you select.

@rickduley

Hi Rick

Switch to timeline mode and locate the offending transition there you should see the fanfare audio file with the transition objects - you should be able to ungroup it and then delete the audio.

Note: if you used a movie template, on switching to timeline mode the movie will be disconnected from the template to allow for further editing.

John EB

Thanks

I'll give that a whirl as soon as I get the chance.

MEP is busy right now - fanfare and all! 😁😂😁

@rickduley

Hi Rick

Switch to timeline mode and locate the offending transition

So far so good ...

there you should see the fanfare audio file with the transition objects

... nooooo ...

- you should be able to ungroup it and then delete the audio.

... eh?!

Note: if you used a movie template, on switching to timeline mode the movie will be disconnected from the template to allow for further editing.

I'm just deleting ads from a video recorded from free-to-air. I have never used a template.

John EB

I got MEP to display THREE audio lines but I have no idea what to do with them. Sadly, Mickey is in a bad mood at the moment and I cannot put an image of the four lines on OneDrive or an MTS file so I can't post any links. I'll do that when Mr M. Soft starts being more cooperative.

This is what mu GUI shows.

This is a spare MTS file in case you don't have one handy.

Hope that helps.

@browj2 @johnebaker @rickduley

Hi Rick.

Are you running a trial version of the software as I can't replicate the problem.

If it's a trial it could be being put in to stop people using the program to produce finished projects.

Ray.

@rickduley

Hi Rick

. . . . I got MEP to display THREE audio lines but I have no idea what to do with them. . . . .

What you have there are the three sound channels of Surround Sound audio in the mts file, if you look at the file name of the audio this is the same as the video.

The sample file you have uploaded has only stereo sound.

The effect you applied looks like it is a fade through black which does not have any audio component

Try scrolling down to lower tracks eg tracks 6 - 10 there may be the audio file there.

John EB

@johnebaker @rickduley @browj2

The audio file split and shown as used in Movie Edit Pro.

No audio on tracks two and three.

This is confirmed in Video Pro X where stereo extraction is not possible on the second and third audio tracks due to lack of audio content.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

Thanks for confirming what MediaInfo says:

Audio
ID                                       : 1603 (0x643)
Menu ID                                  : 1380 (0x564)
Format                                   : AC-3
Format/Info                              : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name                          : Dolby Digital
Codec ID                                 : 6
Duration                                 : 1 min 35 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 384 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 444 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz

John EB

@browj2 @johnebaker @rickduley

Are you running a trial version of the software as I can't replicate the problem.

No

The file I am working on is the movie Rocky II (which obviously has three audio tracks) and when I displayed the audio tracks again with an adjusted GUI (to give me a bigger audio editing area) MEP came up with this. That made me think that the transition DID have its own audio. However, MEP kept on chewing things over all by itself and after ten minutes came up with this. It really does look like the transition has its own audio. The little columns marked with crosses in tracks 2 .. 4 contain that fanfare. I can mute that scene containing the transition but it mutes the whole scene.

BTW: I looked all the way down to track 32 and there only the three audio tracks.

@rickduley @browj2 @johnebaker

Hi Rick.

I have tried editing and exporting the file in both Movie Edit Pro and VPX and can find no trace of an added fanfare on any of the transitions.

I doubt in this instance it is a hardware issue and the program at my end is stable.

I can't think of any reason this should happen with a standard cross-fade.

The only anomalies I can find is that within the editor the sound is out of sync with the visuals and yet it plays in sync with VLC player. The second is the file info mentions a teletext stream: Teletext Subtitle.

Text
ID                                       : 1604 (0x644)-801
Menu ID                                  : 1380 (0x564)
Format                                   : Teletext Subtitle
Language                                 : English

Menu
ID                                       : 1600 (0x640)
Menu ID                                  : 1380 (0x564)
Duration                                 : 1 min 35 s
List                                     : 1542 (0x606) () / 1601 (0x641) (AVC) / 1603 (0x643) (AC-3, English) / 1604 (0x644)-801 (Teletext Subtitle, en)
Language                                 :  /  / English / English

I have never seen that information before in a video file.

General question to the forum. Could it trigger some form of DRM?

Ray.

@rickduley

Thank you for the last reply.

None of the Magix products will work correctly with content from commercially produced discs due to the Digital Rights Management codes embedded in the content.

Ray.

@rickduley

Hi,

A cross-fade does not add fanfare or any other sound.

Did you try removing the transition and listening to see if you can hear the same fanfare?

Did you try muting the audio tracks and listening? Do you still hear the fanfare? If not, then it is in your video.

John CB

@rickduley

Hi Rick

Do you get the same 'fanfare' on every transition or is it just the one transition between 2 particular clips?

John EB

None of the Magix products will work correctly with content from commercially produced discs due to the Digital Rights Management codes embedded in the content.

I am not working from a commercially produced disc. I am working from an MTS file generated by recording from free-to-air.

Did you try removing the transition and listening to see if you can hear the same fanfare?

How do you remove a transition. I can change a transition but not remove it.

Did you try muting the audio tracks and listening?

Yes - you hear nothing.

 

 

 

Do you get the same 'fanfare' on every transition or is it just the one transition between 2 particular clips?

Any transition. Any scenes.

Remove transition = Cut No Fade 😬

Just inserted a transition into another move. No Problem! 🙃 Maybe it's a Rocky II thing?

@rickduley

Hi Rick

This is beginning to sound like the .mts files are from a Blu-Ray disc, and is the DRM kicking in as a spoiler.

John EB

@johnebaker @rickduley

Hi.

DRM can be added to any material whether it is from a DVD / Blu-Ray or digital download site. It does not have to be a visible water mark and can be audio disruption or other form of disablement or tagging. The list of variation of what is possible is quite impressive.

Ray.