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Former user wrote on 10/10/2022, 7:46 PM

@Hexenhammer This one I created with a Samsung S21 Ultra works fine,

Do you have Movie Studio 2023 & are you having a problem?

Hexenhammer wrote on 10/10/2022, 7:51 PM

@Hexenhammer This one I created with a Samsung S21 Ultra works fine,

Do you have Movie Studio 2023 & are you having a problem?


I was offered an upgrade, but last year i downloaded a demo and it didnt support HDR.

I need a easy top use software [like LumaFusion] to edit HDR videos, game capture

I almost got Ipadpro M1 for that bnut decided to wait for M2, and now i see this soft and maybe it already supports HDR on PC

Something like daviuncis resolve too complicated for me, I dont want to learn tons of settings, want everything to be automatic and dumb proof, like cut video, merge video, export and everything works with HDR

Former user wrote on 10/10/2022, 8:06 PM

@Hexenhammer Upgrade from what? I don't think the Trial version has HEVC support include, there's a small fee for the HEVC codec, about £5 i think but it's a one time purchase, I bought mine a long time ago.

I've got lots of software but i still use this cheap MS, I've used it since 2004, it's a fast export & the preview plays at full res no prob, performance may depend on your PC software but there's people on here with basic machines that have no problems,

If you want you can upload a sample to Google Drive & I'll try it?

Hexenhammer wrote on 10/10/2022, 8:09 PM

@Hexenhammer Upgrade from what? I don't think the Trial version has HEVC support include, there's a small fee for the HEVC codec, about £5 i think but it's a one time purchase, I bought mine a long time ago.

I've got lots of software but i still use this cheap MS, I've used it since 2004, it's a fast export & the preview plays at full res no prob, performance may depend on your PC software but there's people on here with basic machines that have no problems,

If you want you can upload a sample to Google Drive & I'll try it?

I have bunch of magix software from sofwtare bundle [humblebundle]

Every year they offer upgrades, now its 69$ for Movie Studio 2023 Suite + Abelssoft AntiBrowserSpy + Abelssoft EverDoc

I downloaded a trial of the suite, it has HEVC but it saved the file as 8bit and removed HDR

also it doesnt like PS5 video file

Ill upload both to google if you can test please

Hexenhammer wrote on 10/10/2022, 8:22 PM

@Hexenhammer Upgrade from what? I don't think the Trial version has HEVC support include, there's a small fee for the HEVC codec, about £5 i think but it's a one time purchase, I bought mine a long time ago.

I've got lots of software but i still use this cheap MS, I've used it since 2004, it's a fast export & the preview plays at full res no prob, performance may depend on your PC software but there's people on here with basic machines that have no problems,

If you want you can upload a sample to Google Drive & I'll try it?

Here you go, 3 HDR files, 2 are webm format, its from PS5, i hope it works, the third file is MKV from nvidia PC capture

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eLuJmlBfbUz4c8Sbta4bu0dBmCLs4KhK?usp=sharing

CubeAce wrote on 10/10/2022, 8:29 PM

@Hexenhammer

Hi.

I think the demo doesn't support HDR because you can only export HDR using the HEVC wrapper for export and that is not available in the demo version. While you get the HEVC wrapper for importing into MS there is an extra small fee involved for getting the encoder.

Ray.

 

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Hexenhammer wrote on 10/10/2022, 8:30 PM

@Hexenhammer

Hi.

I think the demo doesn't support HDR because you can only export HDR using the HEVC wrapper for export and that is not available in the demo version. While you get the HEVC wrapper for importing into MS there is an extra small fee involved for getting the encoder.

Ray.

I have HEVC as option in the demo, its not a demo, says its 30 days edition with 3 minute export limit, thats basically it

Hexenhammer wrote on 10/10/2022, 8:32 PM

 

@Hexenhammer

Hi.

I think the demo doesn't support HDR because you can only export HDR using the HEVC wrapper for export and that is not available in the demo version. While you get the HEVC wrapper for importing into MS there is an extra small fee involved for getting the encoder.

Ray.

This is what came out out of my HDR video, HEVC yes, HDR no, it stripped HDR and 10biut to 8Bit

 

 1
Format                         : HEVC
Format/Info                    : High Efficiency Video Coding
Format profile                 : Main@L5.1@Main
Codec ID                       : hvc1
Codec ID/Info                  : High Efficiency Video Coding
Duration                       : 2 min 52 s
Bit rate                       : 15.9 Mb/s
Width                          : 3 840 pixels
Height                         : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio           : 16:9
Frame rate mode                : Constant
Frame rate                     : 60.000 FPS
Color space                    : YUV
Chroma subsampling             : 4:2:0
Bit depth                      : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)             : 0.032
Stream size                    : 327 MiB (99%)
Language                       : English
Encoded date                   : UTC 2022-10-11 01:28:39
Tagged date                    : UTC 2022-10-11 01:28:39
Codec configuration box        : hvcC

AAProds wrote on 10/10/2022, 8:59 PM

Did I read somewhere here that Movie Studio can't export 10bit, only 8bit? Movie Studio can import HEVC and 10bit. Can VPX export 10bit? That may be what @Hexenhammer would need.

Ray, "HEVC" is not a wrapper. The wrapper is "MP4". "HEVC" is the codec in the wrapper (container, actually).

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Magix Video Deluxe 2026 Ultimate (although it comes up as "Premium").

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 Home Version 2009

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

Movie Studio 2023

Movie Studio 2024

VPX 12

Hexenhammer wrote on 10/10/2022, 8:59 PM

Did I read somewhere here that Movie Studio can't export 10bit, only 8bit? Movie Studio can import HEVC and 10bit. Can VPX export 10bit? That may be what @Hexenhammer would need.

Ray, "HEVC" is not a wrapper. The wrapper is "MP4". "HEVC" is the codec in the wrapper (container, actually).


VPX?

AAProds wrote on 10/10/2022, 9:01 PM

@Hexenhammer

Video Pro X, the bigger, more capable/featured brother to Movie Studio:

https://www.magix.com/gb/video-editing/video-pro-x/

 

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Magix Video Deluxe 2026 Ultimate (although it comes up as "Premium").

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 Home Version 2009

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

Movie Studio 2023

Movie Studio 2024

VPX 12

Hexenhammer wrote on 10/10/2022, 9:05 PM

@Hexenhammer

Video Pro X, the bigger, more capable/featured brother to Movie Studio:

https://www.magix.com/gb/video-editing/video-pro-x/

 

€ 149,00, not cheap

AAProds wrote on 10/10/2022, 9:08 PM

@Hexenhammer

Just checked with my Humble Bumble copy of VPX 12, it can export to 10bit HEVC and 2020 colour:

Somebody will need to check that VPX 14 can do this; I assume yes.

Last changed by AAProds on 10/10/2022, 9:09 PM, changed a total of 1 times.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Magix Video Deluxe 2026 Ultimate (although it comes up as "Premium").

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 Home Version 2009

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

Movie Studio 2023

Movie Studio 2024

VPX 12

Hexenhammer wrote on 10/10/2022, 9:10 PM

@Hexenhammer

Just checked with my Humble Bumble copy of VPX 12, it can export to 10bit HEVC and 2020 colour:

Somebody will need to check that VPX 14 can do this; I assume yes.

I rember testing it and it had no HDR

I have a code for Video Pro X

Hexenhammer wrote on 10/10/2022, 9:13 PM

@Hexenhammer

Just checked with my Humble Bumble copy of VPX 12, it can export to 10bit HEVC and 2020 colour:

Somebody will need to check that VPX 14 can do this; I assume yes.

Are you sure its from Humble Bundle? because i have the Video Pro X11 files

AAProds wrote on 10/10/2022, 9:14 PM

@Hexenhammer

Yes, I got my VPX 12 from Humble Bumble earlier this year.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Magix Video Deluxe 2026 Ultimate (although it comes up as "Premium").

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 Home Version 2009

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

Movie Studio 2023

Movie Studio 2024

VPX 12

AAProds wrote on 10/10/2022, 9:15 PM

As for HDR, I quote Sergeant Schultz: "I know nothing!".

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Magix Video Deluxe 2026 Ultimate (although it comes up as "Premium").

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 Home Version 2009

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

Movie Studio 2023

Movie Studio 2024

VPX 12

Former user wrote on 10/10/2022, 9:24 PM

@Hexenhammer Sorry I missread your post that you also wanted to export as 10bit,

MS2023 only exported the Matroska one as 8bit, the WebM Video won't import into MS,

VPX 14 will export as 10bit

This is the file those settings created, the WebM Video won't import into VPX either.

 

Hexenhammer wrote on 10/10/2022, 11:39 PM

@Hexenhammer Sorry I missread your post that you also wanted to export as 10bit,

MS2023 only exported the Matroska one as 8bit, the WebM Video won't import into MS,

VPX 14 will export as 10bit

This is the file those settings created, the WebM Video won't import into VPX either.

 

Hi,

thanks for testing this for me.

HDR has to be 10bit, thats part of HDR format

The first picture that you posted its 10Bit, is it from 2023 or VPX?

 

Do you have retail VPX or demo? will the demo let me test the 10bit+HDR?

Sadly i have a series for VPX11, upgrade to retail is like 240EUR or something and license for one year also upgrade is 140.

Its strange that PC has so many editing programs and tons of freeware and HDR is something that came from 2017-2018, we can capture in HDR but editing HDR is limited to professional paid software, even if you look for like minimum of features, the freeware editing tools, even the advanced ones lack HDR

 

I think getting ipad M2 12.9 for editing is not that bad idea now, I mean i can use the ipad for otehr things and I already have license for LumaFusion, its one of those buy once and get future updates free

CubeAce wrote on 10/11/2022, 1:05 AM

@AAProds

I did it again! should have typed H265 I did wonder if MS could do 10 bit but was going by @Former user MediaInfo.

I wondered because in VPX there is a separate box to adjust for a 10 bit export but assumed (wrongly) that may have been automated and enabled in the 2023 version.

I think it has been over a year now since I've seen any Magix products offered on HumbleBundle.

Ray.

Last changed by CubeAce on 10/11/2022, 1:08 AM, changed a total of 1 times.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

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johnebaker wrote on 10/11/2022, 7:35 AM

@Hexenhammer

. . . . I have HEVC as option in the demo, its not a demo, says its 30 days edition with 3 minute export limit . . . .

That is still the trial/demo version, the full version has no restriction on the export length.

Exporting HEVC is only available in Movie Studio and is 8 bit, none HDR only and requires the purchase of the codec for a small fee.

The encoding codec is included with VPX.

. . . . will the demo let me test the 10bit+HDR? . . . .

No, this is one of the restrictions of trial versions.

. . . . editing HDR is limited to professional paid software . . . .

The codec costs money as it is a proprietory product for which Magix pay a licence fee for every copy used in the program. When you purchase either the codec for Movie Studio, or Video Por X , the codec will be registered to you and Magix will pay the licensor a fee for it.

HTH

John EB
Forum Moderator

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