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browj2 wrote on 6/29/2019, 7:47 AM

@mak

Which software and version are you talking about?

Your project setting frame rate is 24 fps, correct? 00:01:17 is 1 second, 17 frames. You indicate 00:00:41 which means 41 frames, or 1 second 17 frames; you cannot have 00:00:41 with a project frame rate of 24. As soon as the counter hits 24, it makes it 1 second, 0 frames. Thus your comment about buggy software is completely unfounded.

If you would take some time to learn the program and read the manual, you would know that the format is hh:mm:ss:frames. With a frame rate of 24, you cannot have more than 23 showing up; 24 would be 1 second 0 frames; 25 would be 00:00:01:01, or 1 second 1 frame.

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mak wrote on 6/29/2019, 9:16 AM

@mak

Which software and version are you talking about?

Your project setting frame rate is 24 fps, correct? 00:01:17 is 1 second, 17 frames. You indicate 00:00:41 which means 41 frames, or 1 second 17 frames; you cannot have 00:00:41 with a project frame rate of 24. As soon as the counter hits 24, it makes it 1 second, 0 frames. Thus your comment about buggy software is completely unfounded.

If you would take some time to learn the program and read the manual, you would know that the format is hh:mm:ss:frames. With a frame rate of 24, you cannot have more than 23 showing up; 24 would be 1 second 0 frames; 25 would be 00:00:01:01, or 1 second 1 frame.

John CB

 

Ok you got me I am biased af as I had bugs before, wow I don't read manuals, ever, I am a good for nothing millennial, why would you have an option to change frames right there anyway!? I might be in the wrong here but that is unintuitive even if it saves you time!

browj2 wrote on 6/29/2019, 10:33 AM

I assumed that what you were doing was trying to change the length of a photo, correct?

Note also that if you type 60 into the seconds position, enter, it will be changed to 1 minute.

Videos are all based on frames, not fractions of a second. The timer or counters show the time as I indicated with the number of frames in the last box. Otherwise, if you want something 3 seconds and 12 frames long  (3.5 seconds), you would have to calculate the number of frames, which I expect would be too complicated for millennials, so video programs use an easier convention. Quickly now, how long will a project run that has 36,000 frames?

Look at the MEP screen. Above the timeline, the scale is in ...ss:frames, as is the range length bar just above that, as are the left and right counters at the top of the Preview Monitor.

The "Change photo length" shows "sec" at the end, and that is where Magix could do a better job by indicating "mm:ss:frames." As you found, if you put in the number of frames greater than the project frame rate, the program converts it automatically to seconds:frames. I guess that Magix decided that most users would read the manual and understand that the standard convention is mm:ss:frames.

Select a video clip, right click, Object properties, and you'll see XXh XXmin XXs XX Frames beside Object play time.

BTW, you cannot have anything that is less than 1 frame in MEP. The length of a photo also has to respect the frames convention, meaning that a photo length cannot be a fraction of a frame. In Video Pro X, audio can be less than a frame, but not in MEP.

If you find something that you think is a bug, post it with as much information as possible, including the program name and version, what you did, screen shots, type of file(s) used including source (camera type, screen recording, YT download, whatever), and ask if anyone can duplicate it. You may be doing something wrong or it may actually be a bug.

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mak wrote on 6/29/2019, 1:24 PM

You're probably right, you sound like you are. What I did was I deleted the software and installed OpenShot Video Editor and it is quite intuitive, I was able to change the length of photos to a second, I don't know how it works and I don't want to know, I value space in my head. Have you heard of it? It's neat that there is a free open source software everyone can contribute to. I think open source is future.

mak wrote on 6/29/2019, 3:01 PM

I have a visual memory and a bit dyslexic I find it hard to follow technical instructions in text form.

I hope in the future the AI will do everything for me because I have zero interest in how stuff works.