Change photo length - should it behave like it does?

terrypin wrote on 2/7/2014, 4:47 PM

I'm confused about what happens to the KFs you've set in an image object (usually a photo) when you change its length.

Take a solid example. Place a photo of say 10 secs on the timeline of a fresh project. In Size/Position, add a KF at the start, zoom size 100, and one at the end, size 200. Ensure that Combine effects curve with object length is not enabled. Now use Right click > Change photo length to shorten it to 8 s.

 

 

BTW, if this was a built in effect, such as a movement template, you'd have great difficulty adjusting it. Because you couldn't access all its KFs without removing it to some track (or another movie) where you could expand it to its original design size to see all of them.

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

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johnebaker wrote on 2/8/2014, 4:30 AM

Hi Terry

I would suggest this is by design. It is the same in MEP2014, 2013, MX and 17.

If you want the KF effects to shorten with the change in image length then there is the Combine effects curve to object length option - the annoying part of this option is that there is no other indication on the object or the KF themselves that they are locked to the length of the object that this has been applied except the tick against the option - I would like to see the KFs change colour for those which are locked as the option can be applied to all KF at once or individual component of the effect - expand the KF timeline to show all the parts ie click the arrow to the left of the effect name on the KF timeline

My workflow may be different from yours - I assemble my projects in this order

   1   add required image/ video objects to timeline

   2   remove unwanted parts from the video and set the lengths of the images

   3.  set transitions

   4   add any KF movements

The only variation from this is when creating collages/PIP which are built up step by step.

John

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terrypin wrote on 2/8/2014, 6:17 AM

Hi John,

My work flow is very similar to yours, although I suspect I use a lower proportion of videos to images. Where the KF issue becomes significant for me, as mentioned, is when adding an effect such as a movement template to my image and finding no (or only some) KFs displayed.

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jcvideo wrote on 4/15/2014, 8:32 PM

What is a KF?

cpc000cpc wrote on 4/15/2014, 10:25 PM

John,

KF are Key Frames which can be set to have an effect change over time. For more info search for 'keyframe' in the help file.

Regards,

Carl