Changing default display to 2nd display for 3D output.

marjamar wrote on 4/7/2017, 11:16 PM

I'm sure it's asked before, but it's not coming up in my search. How come the 2nd display is not the 3D display by default and how do you make it the default screen for 3D output? Seems only logical and yet I find no way to do this other then to drag the primary screen over to the 3D projector screen.

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johnebaker wrote on 4/8/2017, 1:47 AM

Hi

Have you set Windows to use both screens in Extended work top mode?

Once you have done this and assuming you mean the Preview monitor is what you want on the second screen you can drag the preview monitor over to the second screen, where it will then stay.

For each new project you will have to set the preview monitor to the appropriate 3D type.

HTH

John EB

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marjamar wrote on 4/8/2017, 8:19 AM

That's the only way it can work then? The way it should be is, the 2nd display should already default to the preview monitor screen and the primary display should be the editing screen. This way, if you are working 3D footage, you only have to wear 3D glasses to check 3D content which would always be available on the 2nd display. I do not see any way to even exchange screens, just a way to drag the edit screen to the 2nd display. The 2nd display does not even have the ability to show 3D content without dragging the primary display screen over it. At least that's all I have found it to do. Hope I am wrong, and there is a method to simplify this that I have not found.

Thanks.

johnebaker wrote on 4/8/2017, 11:34 AM

Hi

. . . . . That's the only way it can work then? The way it should be is, the 2nd display should already default to the preview monitor screen and the primary display should be the editing screen . . . . .

This is not an issue with the program, all interaction between a Windows program ie displaying on the monitors, keyboard input, mouse control etc is done through Windows, and the display control is a Windows function, which by default, will duplicate (clone) the primary monitor to the second monitor.

Windows has to be told to extend the desktop to the second monitor such that whatever is placed on it stays there.

Which type of 3D video are you working with Anaglyph, side by side or top/bottom ?


. . . . I do not see any way to even exchange screens . . . . .

This will be in your graphics control panel - below is mine showing the assignment of primary and secondary display

HTH

John EB

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

marjamar wrote on 4/8/2017, 12:56 PM

I normally produce both SBS and Anaglyph on occasion. As any display configured in extension mode, is treated by Windows as a single monitor in respect to content, it is up to the software being used to what content is being sent to what monitor. In the case of my monitors, I have a desktop 4K monitor for my computer's primary monitor and I use a 3D DLP projector as my preview monitor. I do it this way as I like to reference as I am editing, my content at various stages during editing. I primarily use either Adobe's Premiere/After Effects, Divencie Resolve, GoPro Studio or at times, Vegas Pro 12. All of these pretty much treat my displays in a similar manner, in that I edit using my desktop display and preview and play to my 3D DLP projector. I am able to do this with Movie Edit Pro Premium as well, but it is not straight forward by any means. I wish it were.

Again, thanks for your help.

-Rodger

Scenestealer wrote on 4/8/2017, 6:11 PM

Hi

The correct way to do this should be to go to "Program Settings > Display options > Output to external device" and check the box "Video output activated" however as you have probably found the second display outputs but not in 3D.

Video Pro X has an additional check box in this window " Allow stereo editing" which transfers the Source Monitor feed (I think) available in VPX to the external device. However I can not get that to show 3D either although this may have something to do with my PC configuration where I am feeding my main monitor from an Nvidia card and my second monitor from the Intel Integrated GPU. Maybe someone else with VPX can try this to confirm?

Peter 

System Specs: Intel 6th Gen i7 6700K 4Ghz O.C.4.6GHz, Asus Z170 Pro Gaming MoBo, 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM, Samsung 850 EVO 512GB SSD system disc WD Black 4TB HDD Video Storage, Nvidia GTX1060 OC 6GB, Win10 Pro 2004, MEP2016, 2022 (V21.0.1.92) Premium and prior, VPX7, VPX12 (V18.0.1.85). Microsoft Surface Pro3 i5 4300U 1.9GHz Max 2.6Ghz, HDGraphics 4400, 4GB Ram 128GB SSD + 64GB Strontium Micro SD card, Win 10Pro 2004, MEP2015 Premium.

johnebaker wrote on 4/9/2017, 4:04 AM

Hi

. . . . The correct way to do this should be to go to "Program Settings > Display options > Output to external device" and check the box "Video output activated" however as you have probably found the second display outputs but not in 3D. . . . .

On my PC the the 'Video output activated' option requires Windows Desktop to be in Extended mode - for all other modes the check box is not selectable.

If the preview monitor is on the second display ( 3D DLP projector) and set to the correct display option from the menu shown below, this is currently in Anaglyph mode, then it should output 3D video to the projector - the projector may require switching manually to 3D side by side.

 

@ Peter

. . . . I can not get that to show 3D either although this may have something to do with my PC configuration where I am feeding my main monitor from an Nvidia card and my second monitor from the Intel Integrated GPU . . . .

Are the monitors and graphics cards 3D side by side capable for shutter or polarised 3D glasses?

For Anaglyph any monitor / graphics card/chipset can be used

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Scenestealer wrote on 4/9/2017, 6:21 AM

Hi John

My windows desktop is in Extended mode but when I activate the Video output in MEP Program settings> Display mode the full screen picture pops up on the second monitor but without the 3D changes (as in your screen shot) that you notice in the preview monitor on the main editing screen, when you select anaglyph or side by side. It should not matter whether this can be viewed with 3D glasses or not, I should still see a change in the image as I do on my main monitor which is also not 3D capable.

I presume @marjamar wants to retain the preview monitor on his main editing screen whilst the Video Output is occurring on his second display. Is that screen shot of yours of the second monitor with the video output activated and the same picture showing on your editing interface? I think not because we should not see the transport controls on the second display in this mode.

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marjamar wrote on 4/9/2017, 8:14 AM

Same here. The only thing that comes out of the active selected monitor is 2D, at least I have not found a way to seen anything different. If it did have 3D come to it, I would never have posted here to begin with most likely.