Peter

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Hi Peter

Thank you very much for the quick and comprehensive answer, I am pleasantly surprised. Also thank you for clarifying some things about the program.
My mistake I made was that I thought the quadroo graphic would work better with this software than Intel. I have set MEP towards Intel now and there is a little change but unfortunately only slight.
I wonder if such a video editing program would have a problem with such a simply thing and I need to look for other solutions (uses another program, modification or other combinations)
If you use this program, could you do a simple thing and check if you have the same problem?
Just import some jpeg file and put it in timeline (my jpeg is 90kb 1200x669) change the brightness of the picture on 4 and contrast on 50. Use 'Title templates-Caption Basic' -> 'Expedition Center' and set the size and position like on the picture (I attached the picture). Now add 'Title templates-3D animation Basic' -> 'Pulsating1' twice and change the position as in the picture. With such a small and simple project problems start, I will add that if I delete one of track ('Title templates-3D animation Basic -> 'Pulsating1') then works fine. I need a few question marks for my project that move unevenly.

This program has a plenty ready to use effects and templates which is very helpful for my projects but what's the point if they can't be used.
Does this program need any external codecs?

Regards
Emil

@Emillo

Hi

Your text description of what is on the timeline and what effects to apply does no match with what the image demonstrates ie there appears to be a Rotation effect applied to the three titles - see image below

. . . . Title templates-Caption Basic' -> 'Expedition Center' and set the size and position like on the picture . . . . 'Title templates-3D animation Basic' -> 'Pulsating1' twice and change the position as in the picture . . . . .

In replicating this issue on my laptop as in your text instructions, adding the second 3D title has resulted in MEPs preview playback being overloaded - this is seen as the choppy playback with dropped frames, adding a rotation effect makes the issue worse. Removing one of the 3D titles results in smooth playback.

Google translate:

Twój tekstowy opis tego, co znajduje się na osi czasu i jakie efekty zastosować, nie pasuje do tego, co pokazuje obraz, tzn. Wydaje się, że do trzech tytułów zastosowano efekt Obrót - patrz zdjęcie poniżej

Powielając ten problem na moim laptopie, jak w instrukcjach tekstowych, dodanie drugiego tytułu 3D spowodowało przeciążenie odtwarzania podglądu posłów do MEPs - jest to postrzegane jako przerywane odtwarzanie z opuszczonymi ramkami, dodanie efektu obrotu pogarsza problem. Usunięcie jednego z tytułów 3D powoduje płynne odtwarzanie.

HTH

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

Thanks for the reply in both languages 🙂

Yes I changed the rotation of the three tracks just forgot to mention that. Question marks are at a slight angle and the blue background horizontally instead of vertically (I could avoid this change of blue background ).

So the good news is that the program and laptop are ok and the bad news is that I have to learn how to use this program?  In my projects, I will often use ready templates where the position and size will be changed.  Do you have any idea how to avoid overloading ?  Or maybe you have a link to the tutorial where I could learn because the ones I saw are only those where everything was discussed in general.

Regards

Emil

@Emillo

Hi,

The title 'Title templates-3D animation Basic' -> 'Pulsating1' is a 3D Maker object (X3D) and these can greatly drag down playback quality, especially with more than 1 at a time. Did you try rendering the range to include the title zone?

In MEP2019 with only 1 Pulsating title (with 2 question marks), playback is terrible unless I render the range.

Since I have 3D Maker, I was able to export to an AVI file with a green background. For some reason, I couldn't get transparency, so I used green. Then I imported the AVI which only makes one cycle, and repeated it. Smooth playback. The only problem was with the green in the title itself.

You can download and install the trial version of Magix 3D Maker and try it out. Once installed, when you open a 3D title, it will open the 3D Maker program and you can modify whatever you want. Exit the program and the modified title shows up on the timeline. You can extend it to get more cycles.

Tutorial on using 3D Maker with MEP/VPX:

John CB

@Emillo @browj2

I notice you are both on MEP2019 which does not have the new Infusion Engine that helps playback with multiple tracks and GPU accelerates transformations like Size Position and Rotation among other effects. Rotation always required a lot of intensive processing in versions prior to MEP2020 and VPX11.Probably needs an Intel or Nvidia GPU to achieve any gains though but on my system it is smooth on a 4K timeline with the Lower Third and one Pulsating title effect with or without rotation on the overlay tracks but chokes with a second Pulsate.

As you have suggested JohnCB, it is probably best to Preview Render the section, or export an AVI with Alpha channel the from 3D maker if you can get it. Another possibility is to animate the Question Mark title with keyframes in MEP which will be less resource hungry.

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter,

I tried it in VPX11 with the Infusion Engine and the result is choppy. Rendering the range made it smooth. Of course, I don't have a fancy machine.

John CB

Thank you all for your help - really appreciate.

The fact is, rendering range helps, but the preview is still not smoothly as I expected. I noticed that the biggest problem is with the X3D effects as browj2 mentioned, it seems that the other effects are ok. To sum up thanks to you guys, I understand a bit better, where is the problem and what to do, but I'm not satisfied yet. 3d maker program is out of the question, I will have limited time to do the projects, which is why I chose MEP.
At the weekend I will have more time so I will calmly check your suggestions. I hope I can come here again if I have questions. 🙂

Regards

Emil

@browj2

I tried it in VPX11 with the Infusion Engine and the result is choppy. Rendering the range made it smooth. Of course, I don't have a fancy machine.

I am not surprised. As I said earlier the gains with the Infusion Engine are based around an Intel integrated GPU and/or an Nvidia Graphics card - neither of which your desktop has.

@Emillo

By all means come back here with more questions after you have had more time to play.

Peter

@Scenestealer

@browj2

Even if I play back something after rendering in the timeline, if the graphics are complex enough, I find it still jitters a lot. Even while using the scroll wheel, while the background clip may appear to be running as expected, the graphics just don't render quickly enough to be visible. The finished export render though is perfectly OK.

The only way around this I have found is to render the graphics separately and then re-import as a video file. It's useful to do if you need to repeat a graphic design for multiple projects anyway.

I think the more you try to do creatively, the more stress you put on the system, but because the effort and end result is so pleasing to the eye and worthwhile, we tend to keep on pushing what our systems are capable of.

At some point we are bound to hit the limits of what is possible and impacts on the performance of the program.

I think that is human nature.

@Scenestealer

@Emillo @browj2

I notice you are both on MEP2019 which does not have the new Infusion Engine

I'm wondering because I bought the MEP2019 version, but because of all these attempts to improve the program, I was forced few times to download and install this software again. What does it look like if I downloaded MEP2020 'TRIAL' and activated it with my serial number? Does the version 19 (see picture) mean it is MEP2020?

@Emillo

That is the current version of MEP.

@Emillo

I made an assumption that you were on MEP2019 based on the splash screen when you started the program in your first posting's video. I take it you have been on 2020 through out this discussion then?

@Emillo

Hi,

About the version; you are on a 1 year update service during which you get updates and any new versions of MEP. So if you are still within the 1 year since you last paid, you can update, which in the case of 2019 you can get 2020 simply by updating (and downloading and installing everything again under Help, Install extra content). Look at your account to see when the update service expires, and also note what Update Service means.

John CB

@Emillo

I made an assumption that you were on MEP2019 based on the splash screen when you started the program in your first posting's video. I take it you have been on 2020 through out this discussion then?

Yes writing the first post here, I already had MEP2020 and you are right, in the first post the video is made on an older version, made about a year ago so it could actually be misleading.  But it's clarified now - thanks.