@Dustinthewind36

Hi and welcome to the forum.

In addition to @browj2 comment:

. . . . . The audio part of my movie is huge. . . . .

The only way to determine this is to do a MediaInfo analysis - this will tell you the size of the video and audio streams - post the results from the Text view.

In practice the audio stream is never bigger than the video stream and is a very small percentage of the total file size ie less than 1 - 2 % of the total file size.

. . . . I've tried to use the lowest settings but the file is still too large . . . .

Exactly what are you trying to do, using 'the lowest settings' is meaningless without some context.

John EB
Forum Moderator

In the first screen shot the audio part is 113MB and the video is 30MB. In the second screen shot is the audio format. Even when I set the audio format to the lowest stereo setting the audio part of the video is still huge. I've gone on line to find a compressor such as WonderShare UniConverter, but there should be something in Movie Edit Pro Premium that can reduce the overall file size. I am using Movie Edit Pro Premium 2018.

Thank you for responding so quickly. I want to send the video to family without using facebook or youtube. The overall size needs to be much smaller. I've tried dropbox but it doesn't like the size of my file, it said that the connection was interrupted after downloading the entire file.

@Dustinthewind36

Do you have a really slow internet connection?

You can also use Wetransfer and several other free file sharing sites with end to end encryption.

Ray.

@Dustinthewind36

 In the first screen shot the audio part is 113MB and the video is 30MB.

Where are you reading this from in that screenshot???

Also, the screenshot for your audio settings shows a very low bit rate, a very low sample rate, both features which are bound to give you extremely low quality.

What is the overall size of the file when exported? I recently needed to send a client a file which was nearly 9GB in size. I used a file sharing site to send it. Yes, it took quite a long time for the upload from my computer but ti was successful.

Also, why have you chosen .wmv as your export format? Have you looked at the various .mp4 options available within MEP? mp4 is much more universally accessible than .wmv.

Jeff

@Dustinthewind36

Hi

This is a MediaInfo analysis of a video exported with the same parameters as you have used:

General
Complete name                            : W:\MAGIX\DVD_BD_Projects\Export\test.wmv
Format                                   : Windows Media
File size                                : 386 MiB
Duration                                 : 1 min 0 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 53.9 Mb/s
Maximum Overall bit rate                 : 78.1 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-12-13 14:17:51.130

Video
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : VC-1
Codec ID                                 : WMV3
Codec ID/Info                            : Windows Media Video 9
Codec ID/Hint                            : WMV3
Description of the codec                 : Windows Media Video 9 - Professional
Duration                                 : 1 min 0 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 53.5 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (29970/1000) FPS
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.861
Stream size                              : 383 MiB (99%)
Language                                 : English (Great Britain)
Duration_Source                          : General_Duration

Audio
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : WMA
Format version                           : Version 2
Codec ID                                 : 161
Codec ID/Info                            : Windows Media Audio
Description of the codec                 : Windows Media Audio 9.2 - 160 kbps, 44 kHz, stereo (A/V) 1-pass CBR
Duration                                 : 1 min 0 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 160 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 kHz
Bit depth                                : 16 bits
Stream size                              : 1.15 MiB (0%)
Language                                 : English (Great Britain)
Duration_Source                          : General_Duration

You will note that the Video is 383 MB in size and the audio is 1.15 MB - the audio stream is 0.22% of the total file size.

. . . . audio part is 113MB and the video is 30MB . . . .

Where and what are you using to get these figures - they are impossible, if the audio stream is 113 KB then the ratios are plausible ie the audio stream is 0.32% of the total file size.

If you require the file size to be smaller then I would suggest exporting as MP4 h.264 encoded - this will produce a file about 50% smaller and be more universal than WMV ie it will play on more devices such as Mobile phones and most flat screen TV's

John EB

@emmrecs

Hi Jeff

. . . . Also, the screenshot for your audio settings shows a very low bit rate, a very low sample rate, both features which are bound to give you extremely low quality. . . .

They are the default settings for 1920 x 1080 29.97 fps WMV export in MEP.

I see you got there first with similar questions 😂

John EB

@johnebaker

Yes, I agree about the settings shown on the first screenshot but the second (I assume that's the one he was wanting to use) shows "16kb/s, 16kHz, Stereo, 16 bit". To me, an audio file in that format would be something I would NOT want to listen to!

Jeff

@emmrecs

Hi Jeff

Thanks for the heads up - I misread that as 162.

I have tested 16 kbs audio audio in an export from the same project I posted the MediaInfo from, music it is somewhat lacking in dynamic range however it is 'listenable' with no horrendous distortions etc. With just speech the low bitrate audio quality is reasonable.

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John

I think the 16kHz sample rate is the biggest drawback. Any music is going to sound pretty unpleasant.

Jeff

Thanks for all the response. I added the correct screen shot showing the audio size and video size. The screen shot of the audio quality was to show that even when the worst setting was used it didn't change the the size of the audio part. I will try the media info to see if it gives me a different result. I don't understand why Magix says the audio is huge and mediainfo says it's small? Thanks.

I find that m2ts (MPEG-4) jitters at the start of playing the video and the file is still huge. WMV works well. None of the other "export movies" choices that Magix offers are any better. If there is a better choice inside the Magix program please let me know. Perhaps I would upgrade to the 2021 version, if there are true improvements such as easy compression, easy conversion more format choices etcetera. The program right now is easy to use and works well but with limited output choices. I am using an intel processor i7 - 6700 with 12Gb ram and samsung evo SSD

@Dustinthewind36

I don't understand why Magix says the audio is huge and mediainfo says it's small? 

I don't either, but I would trust the MediaInfo data to be correct!

It also shows the total size of your exported file as 147MB. For a 3 minute 14 second file, I doubt you could ever get anything smaller! How "small" are you wanting the file to be?

Both @johnebaker and I have suggested you look at the various .mp4 options which MEP offers. When you choose "Export movie as mpeg-4" make sure you tick the "Display all" box at the top of the screen that opens. See this screenshot:

BTW, m2ts is NOT MPEG-4! The "m2" tells you it is MPEG-2, the file format for both DVD and blu-ray.

Jeff

 This is a learning experience. I ran the project with and without sound. What is interesting is that the end product is almost the same size and therefore what both you and John have said is correct that the audio portion is very small. Magix's little meter, that tells me what size the audio is, is wrong.Also they list m2ts under MPEG-4 and the m2 being MPEG-2 makes sense. Thank you for your patience and clearing this issue for me. I'm going to try the "display all" button. I've decided to use a 3.1 USB drive to transport my video. The size was an issue for on line sharing, My internet provider states I've got 15 mb/s download and upload, but I've never seen it go above 1 mb/s, as the sender/receiver also needs to be fast. They offer fibre optics for a cost. hmmm?

post script: I tried the "display all" button, and wow, a long list of MPEG-4 choices. Rendering movies in HD formats quickly became huge file sizes and reducing the resolution made the movie too small. Things to work out.

Take care and thank you.

@Dustinthewind36

Hi.

Upload speeds are often only a fraction of download speeds.

You can check your respective upload download speeds by visiting Speedtest.net

Unfortunately video files are large but at least for most people it doesn't take as long to download a file as it does to upload one.

Ray.

Thanks Ray. I thought I would try the Speedtest.net . What an eye opener.

Ouch! Download is as promised, but the upload is a more than a bit slow.

@Dustinthewind36

Hi

. . . . What an eye opener . . . . Ouch! Download is as promised, but the upload is a more than a bit slow. . . . .

That is where the ISP's small print needs reading. The asymmetric values are quite normal for most broadband and ADSL connections, the download/upload ratio is usually around 10:1 sometimes lower if there is a high contention ratio - bandwidth demand vs actual bandwidth.

The reasoning behind this asymmetry is quite valid - the majority of users are downloading data compared to uploading, for example with video viewers many can view it, however only one person uploaded it and only one person is affected by the slower speed.

Going back to the size indicators on the export dialog, I tested exporting WMV with MEP 2015 and 2016 and they both give the audio size in MB, however with MP4 export the display values start at KB then switch to MB as the audio portion increases.

I think this is a display bug for WMV export, however in MEP 2021 for WMV it reports Not available for both video and audio.

John EB