Credit title scroll too quickly - is there an option to slow them down? [Movie Edit Pro 2014]

andrewmcd01 wrote on 11/11/2014, 9:54 AM

I have a ten line end title which I would like to scroll bottom to top. Works fine, but it scrolls really quickly, too quickly to read easily. The scrolling speed doesn't change if I lengthen the object - the titles just zip down as before and leave a blank page. I've tried attaching the titles to a blank bit of footage and using a speed effect to slow it down but no joy.

Sorry if I'm missing omething really obvious but I've checked the pdf manual and googled every combination of animation/scrolling/titles/speed etc.

Using MEP 2014.

 

Andrew

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browj2 wrote on 11/11/2014, 10:06 AM

Hi Andrew and welcome to the Community,

To make your title last longer you need to change the length of the title object. Simply drag the right side of the title object on the Timeline towards the right to get it longer. Alternatively and for more precision, change the length in the title dialog box beside animation (second box is the duration), even if there is no animation set.

Enjoy!

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andrewmcd01 wrote on 11/11/2014, 11:08 AM

Alas, I've tried that and it doesn't work - lengthening the object doesn't affect the speed of the scrolling titles, it just adds blank space at the end of the titles. I've tried by dragging and by speciofying the length.

browj2 wrote on 11/11/2014, 12:18 PM

Hi Andrew,

I am using MEP2014 Plus. If you have the basic version, perhaps it doesn't work. When I do it, my title scrolls evenly over the entire length. See the image below.

Did you increase the length of the title or the length of the image on track 1? You have to increase the title length.

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terrypin wrote on 11/11/2014, 2:19 PM

Hi Andrew,

That does seem strange behaviour and has me curious to hear the eventual explanation!

Which title template are you using?

Does it remain if you start a fresh project and re-enter some text?

I don't think it should matter, but is your text formated by the Title Editor settings into ten lines, or have you deliberately introduced Returns (CR/LF) at the end of each line manually?

Do you want the text to scroll off the lower edge of the screen or is it sized so that it would be possible to stop motion when all ten lines were in view? Assuming, of course, that is desirable; you may want it to empty the screen entirely.

As John says, it should simply be a matter of adjusting the duration of the title object. But as an alternative, and for greater flexibilty, you could instead use keyframe animation.

FWIW, using MEP 2014 Premium, testing with ten or so lines of text and several different built-in and home brewed scroll effects, I did find that the program seemed to be having difficulty at times, stopping motion, jerky, and not responding to my actions. CPU usage rose to 30-35% at that time. My PC spec is modest by today's standards though: Quad Core 2.66 GHz, 4 GB, 512 MB nVIDIA GeoForce 8800GT, running XP (SP3).

 

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andrewmcd01 wrote on 11/12/2014, 3:25 AM

Thanks to both of you for helpful responses. I've found the solution, which is traditional (switch it off and on a few times, empty every cache in machine, etc etc), but it still leaves me with a slight methodological oddity - just FWIW when I use a template for titles (in this case the standard 'end credits'), I can usually, as I did here, doubleclick to open the editor, type in a few lines of text (using CR to break lines and add spaces betwen lines), then click the tick to add the titles and finally move the framing box to wherever I want the titles or captions on the screen. This almost always works, but usually I find I have initially just ONE object in the timeline as a result - this was what I was working with yesterday and finding a dead end.

After restarting everything this morning, lo and behold I have two objects in the timeline, and hurrah if I stretch the lower of the two, the scrolling as expected slows down to cover the length selected. The two objects,according to their properties, are (lower)  title.tfx and (upper) credits.tfx, and I expect that one contains the text and the other is the actual timeline object. I am clearly not quite executing the title entry correctly, and will have another look at the process before troubling you all again!

Many thanks for your assistance

Andrew

NB Acer Aspire M3 581-TG, Core i-5 1.6 GHz, 4Gb,  NVidia GeForce GT640M,  Windows 7 SP1 [and feeling the need for i-7 and abit more clock speed - MEP gives very choppy playback now and then which increases to unusability after more than a couple of hours of editing..)

browj2 wrote on 11/12/2014, 11:53 AM

Hi Andrew,

This is a little confusing. To get the jargon straight, all things that show up on the timeline are "objects." Ojbects can be images, video clips, audio clips, certain effects, collages, and titles. The title.tfx and credits.tfx are objects and also titles. I would expect to see text in both of these. The naming is whatever is on the first line of the title, which in your case is "title" for one of them and "credits" for the other. Double-click on the one that says title and change the word title to "My test." Click on the checkbox. Look at the name on the timeline. It should now say "My test."

What is supposed to be on track 1 - an image (as in the one I showed in my first answer), a video clip, or a title? It can be a title but in your case, if you want a title on the screen that sits there like an image, the credits are going to scroll from bottom to top as you wanted and will go over top of the title. Unless, that is, you have the title pushed to one side of the screen and the credits to another.

You say "I can usually, as I did here, doubleclick to open the editor, type in a few lines of text (using CR to break lines and add spaces betwen lines), then click the tick to add the titles..."  The lines of text that you are typing are what is called the title. It just goes on more than one line because of the CR's and it scrolls if you turn on animation. What tick are you then clicking to add titles? Do you mean the check mark that closes the title editor in the preview monitor? Or is it just your wording that confuses me and by adding titles you are not typing in more titles, simply closing the title editor?

When you have a multi-line (separated by CR's) text, do not type it into the dialog box text field, type it into the box in preview monitor.

I looked at Final Credits title effect under Titles - Standard, and all it does is open up the title dialog and the box in the preview monitor, seeding it with the first line of text, "Final credits" and selecting that scrolling animation setting and a duration of 5 seconds. This you can do yourself as quickly and you don't have to delete or change the default text, just start typing your own.

Maybe you can give us a screen shot of what you are doing and more description as to what you want to see on the screen.

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