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terrypin wrote on 9/1/2014, 8:46 AM

Depends on precisely what you mean by 'separate'.

If they are under separate tabs (as what MEP calls 'movies') then Yes.

 

Terry, East Grinstead, UK 

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johnebaker wrote on 9/1/2014, 1:30 PM

Hi

In addition to Terry's reply - if they are seperate projects then you can load them both into one new project and copy and paste between the two as follows

  1. Export both projects as MVD files  - File, Manage movies, Export
     
  2. Start a new project
     
  3. Import both exported MVD files - File, Manage movie, Import
     
  4. Save the project

You will now have three movies in the project - a blank timeline and two timelines with the imported movies.

You can now copy and paste between the different timelines.

I would copy the parts you need from both imported movies to the blank one.  When you have everything you need from the two imports you can the remove them from the project and save again with a different file name.

HTH

John

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Madgix wrote on 9/1/2014, 1:58 PM

Thank you. I wasn't aware of MVD files before. I can't open the 61.53MB Project File I wanted to retrieve work from now anyway. I also couldn't open the 61.51MB variant from yesterday but I have managed to get a file from last Wednesday to open.

Am I mad trying to use 60MB files ? Do Magix specify what the largest file is that can be opened in Magix Movie Edit Pro 2013 ? I have a project that I have reached the 60 minute point in at close to 60MB. The whole presentation would be likely to finish at 90 minutes.

I stripped everything preceeding the chapter I am working from out and that cut the filesize down to 18MB. I hadn't realised that MEP 2013 *includes* content rather than just POINTS to it.

Is that correct understanding ?

I would much rather keep my film unified in one project so I can scrub through and edit the WHOLE thing.

If I imported my last working 60 minute, MEP 2013 60MB Project into MEP 2014, would it convert it to the new streamlined Control File so that I could carry on with a COMPLETE unified project instead of having to hack it up into pieces ?

 

 

johnebaker wrote on 9/1/2014, 3:33 PM

Hi

. . . . Am I mad trying to use 60MB files . . .

It is not clear what you referring to when you say this?

  1. The size of the MVP file?
     
  2. The size of an individual png image file?
     
  3. or what?
     
  4. How many images are there in the project so far

Also please answer the questions you have been asked before in a precise manner and keep to one single thread on this topic - so far you have asked 5 questions which all relate to the same issue and answers are being split among so there is no continuity.

Without this detail and continuity of a single thread it is very difficult to help you

John

 

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Madgix wrote on 9/2/2014, 6:05 AM

Sorry John.

The 60MB was the size of the MVP file. I have been told by someone at YouTube that this is NOT a large project file size and that some of his MEP 2013 MVPs are GBs not MBs in size.

I now think that perhaps my 61.53MB save file had become corrupt.

The last variant I have that loads properly is a 63MB MVP. That file contains quite a bit less material (a few days' additions) than the 61.53MB MVP that failed. With that in mind, anything succeeding the good 63MB MVP file should have a LARGER filesize, shouldn't it ?

You wouldn't get a smaller filesize just by giving a project a fresh NAME would you ?

I'm wondering if a way to monitor my saves, without having to shut them and re-load them at 10 minutes a time, is just to keep an eye on the MVP file save sizes on my hard drive.

If everything is working properly, they should increase in size with everything I add, shouldn't they - and if a megabyte and a half suddenly disappears - wouldn't that be an alert to something having gone wrong ?

 

johnebaker wrote on 9/2/2014, 2:28 PM

Hi

. . . . 60MB was the size of the MVP file. . . .

A MVP file is a simple plain text file containing the settings of MEP for the project, the names of the clips / images used their position, size , effects applied etc - it contains no video, images or anything else but plain text.

The size of the file depends on the number of objects on the timeline, their size and position, time settings and what effects are applied and at what time.

As an example I have the following:-

  1. A multi movie project, ie 7 seperate timelines of varying length in one project, with approx 1200 objects -  video, image and audio - in total and a lot of fades, transitions and effects - MVP is 815 KB - total video size (on disc) ~ 19GB
     
  2. A timelapse project with approx 3200 still images no effects, transitions and the MVP is 4.15 MB - total video size (on BD disc)  ~ 102 MB

From your other posts I get the impression you are trying do an animated presentation from still images you have created and have already over 7200 imported on the timeline with the aim of creating a movie presentation - is this correct?

John

 

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Scenestealer wrote on 9/2/2014, 7:56 PM

I think your project became corrupt some time ago to have such a large size MVP.

Go back through all your old auto back up files( xxxxxx_BAK0.MV_) and see if there was a point where the MVP suddenly increased in size.

I have had this happen and found whole sections of the timeline had become duplicated downstream so zoom the timeline to show the whole project to check there is not something lurking.

Ss

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