@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike.

I was running a GT 1030 with MEP 2018 running Win 7 with no problem using files up to HD resolutions. I only had problems with it when I started to use 4K files. I was running a larger power supply though (850w) due to running a lot of internal drives and USB powered peripherals.

I still have the GT 1030 wrapped up boxed and stored under my desk. I may still use it for building a dedicated DAW.

I also have three second hand but unused by me, black SATA caddies given to me by a neighbour. I intended to use them but have never got around to buying the slot for them to go into. I really should.

Ray.

Hi Ray - Hi Alwyn - Nice to see you guys again .... 😆 How's the weather Down Under? 🇦🇺

Yes I think that's my system. Its the 4.2 Ghz version with the copper cooling pipes; (Dell offered 'other' variants as well).

Caddy's? You mean 'enclosures'? I've got 'dozens' of em (the esata port version)

GREAT news Ray about your GT 1030! I thought I'd start out with it, then possibly upgrade the power supply down the line? I totally forgot about the iGPU issue and Magix: My understanding is that once a card is installed, the iGPU is automatically disabled? Here was a comment made on Tom's HDRW:

I'm back in the soup again?

Caveats running MEP 2016 on Win 10 Pro? John B? If there are any Caveats, I can always buy a different/newer version of Magix?

Thank you again for your opinions and confirmations...

Mike

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike

No, I meant Caddy which is the term I've always been accustomed to meaning a hot swap-able internal drive in an enclosure able to be swapped out at the front of a tower case similar to this.

It needs an internal tray to slot it into connected to a SATA port on the motherboard. That is what I haven't bought for them.I have two five and a half inch bays free at the front of the case I could use.

Mine don't have locks on them.

My tower case is somewhat taller and has a rack for up to 8 SATA drives. It is an old case, repurposed.

Pretty much the same as above but mine doesn't have a similar side panel.

Ray.

Nice Set Up ... 🙂

Ray: I totally forgot about the iGPU issue and Magix (see above)

Thanx

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike.

Those are just internet searches for similar images. Not my actual setup. Front of case identical. Internal layout but not components the same. My power supply and CPU heat sink are huge.

The Intel processor and nvidia card should be OK for Win 10 or 11. I can't see a reason the nvidia card or Intel GPU wouldn't work with MEP 2022. It may not be as fast as running an earlier version for export but other than that I can't see a problem.

Await Johns' reply.

[Edit]

Here is the inside of my machine.

You can see I've some old cabling and fans. As long as they test OK.

Ray.

@CarpentersMate, @AAProds

Hi Mike, Alwyn

. . . . integrated 530 GPU . . . .

Typo Alwyn (?) - the i7-7700K has a HD 630 even better.

. . . . Caveats running MEP 2016 on Win 10 Pro? . . . .

None - ran fine on my PC when it was on Windows 10 and still does on Windows 11 (new install) - ensure you are using the latest drivers for the HD 630 and GT 1030.

. . . . I can't see a reason the nvidia card or Intel GPU wouldn't work with MEP 2022. It may not be as fast as running an earlier version for export but other than that I can't see a problem. . . .

I agree with this - the GT 1030 supports NVENC hardware acceleration of h.264 and h.265 export formats, if you use these, the drivers do need to be up to date.

Note: MEP 2016 does not support NVENC the hardware acceleration feature which the GT 1030 has, so cannot use the GT 1030 for accelerating export to MP4 (h.264, AVC or h.265 encoded) and will have longer export times for 1280 x 720 or higher resolutions (if you are wanting these resolutions), it needs the Intel iGPU active and a monitor, or a Headless Ghost plugged into it

HTH

John EB

Hi again Ray (Wow That is a Huge Pwr Supply)!

Hi John - Nice to see you ...

'Ok no caveats using W10 Pro' (Got It)

I'm still a bit confused: And I apologize because I know we previously discussed all this?

Back to comprehending the iGPU vs. GPU issue with MEP: Are you suggesting there 'could' be a conflict if I'm trying to use the GT1030 (only applying to MEP 2016)? If so, are you then suggesting I upgrade to MEP 2022 (for no conflict)?

Either way, it's my understanding once I install the GT1030 (or any GPU), the onboard video (iGPU) in the 3620 i7 7700K will automatically become disabled? And if that's not the case, I'm sure there's plenty of clients who actually prefer using a GPU (rather than the onboard video). So how do they deal with this? Do they simply use a more compatible version of Magix, (or) do they have to go into the Bios (first) everytime they want to run MEP enable the iGPU and disable the GPU? 'Toggle back n forth'? "it needs the Intel iGPU active and a monitor, or a Headless Ghost plugged into it" Sorry I just need someone to re-clarify or simplify these cautions/procedures?

And BTW can you comment on this comment from Tom's:

Thank you!

Mike

@johnebaker

. . . . integrated 530 GPU . . . .

Typo Alwyn (?) - the i7-7700K has a HD 630 even better.

Not a typo John, that's what Dell says in the specs I linked to.

@AAProds, @CubeAce

Hi Alwyn

Aha, I see what you mean - that would be one of the lower spec processors that was offered, the i7-7700K was the top of the range processor for that particular model, the lower i3, i5 and i7 processors were gen 6.

John EB

@CarpentersMate @AAProds @johnebaker

Hi Mike.

🤣🤣🤣. Sorry but the last image I posted showed the CPU cooler. My power supply is much larger than that and sits at the top of the case above that motherboard. It's about four times the size of that GPU cooler.

Headless ghosts. Around $5 each. A port of HDMI dummy plug that fits into the motherboards MDMI port and emulates a monitor signal fooling the system into thinking a monitor is connected and allowing both the Intel HD 630 to be used alongside the nvidia card (That would have the monitor plugged into it) within MEP or another program capable of using both GPUs.

I had one to try out for a specific problem with another program but it didn't work out. I seem to collect a lot of redundant bits of hardware as I learn my lessons the hard way.

Ray.

Ok Ray understood ... yes I see you've improved both cooling and power ... very Nice!

And thank you to everyone ... 🙂

I know you guys are busy. As for my remaining question can someone help me focus on a conclusion:

Since I'm using Windows 10 Pro are you firmly suggesting I upgrade to MEP 2022? With hopefully no conflicts?

Does MEP 2022 still focus on an iGPU and ignore a GPU?

What do I need to do with this GT1030 once its installed? Does its installation disable onboard iGPU?

Will MEP 2022 and the GT1030 live happily ever after?

That's all she wrote .... 😁

Thanks - Mike

@CarpentersMate @johnebaker @AAProds

Since I'm using Windows 10 Pro are you firmly suggesting I upgrade to MEP 2022? With hopefully no conflicts?

As long as you don't try producing projects above 1920 x 1080, Yes. Even then there may be a way around some unforeseen problems.

Does MEP 2022 still focus on an iGPU and ignore a GPU?

MEP 2022 (MS 2022) is much more customisable regarding which components it will use. You get a choice. It is just a question of setting it up for best results within a given system.

What do I need to do with this GT1030 once its installed? Does its installation disable onboard iGPU?

Only if you do not install a Headless ghost as I previously alluded to and use the nvidia graphics port rather than the motherboards.

Will MEP 2022 and the GT1030 live happily ever after?

Well, at least until the end of official support for Windows 10 🤣🤣🤣. During the lifespan of Win 11 that may change. At present it will also run on Windows 11 as will your components, but that is now.

Ray.

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike

. . . . Since I'm using Windows 10 Pro are you firmly suggesting I upgrade to MEP 2022?  . . . .

Leaping from MEP 2016 to MEP (Movie Studio) 2022 is a bit of a big step having missed out adapting to 2020, 2021 then to 2022.

If the need is not there, at this stage, I would not jump to 2022.

. . . . Does MEP 2022 still focus on an iGPU and ignore a GPU? . . . .

No - it supports NVENC and has 3 options for Import, Processing and Export which you can assign to a GPU or CPU. I have all mine set to use the NVidia GPU, the iGPU is available and is used for some effects - the best of both worlds.

. . . . Does its installation disable onboard iGPU? . . . .

If it does you should be able to re-enable it again in the BIOS, do note the requirement for a monitor to be plugged in for it to be active. For MEP 2016 and 2022 this is the port the monitor should be attached to and no headless ghost needed for the GT1030, if you go to dual monitors plug the second one into the GT 1030 - mine are used this way. If you do go with dual monitors then I would suggest you also get a monitor colour calibrator to match the screens, as close a possible if they are 2 different make/models - I use a SpyderX Pro.

. . . . Will MEP 2022 and the GT1030 live happily ever after? . . . .

With the current video material you are working with, yes.

. . . . That's all she wrote ....  . . .

For now ! 😂

John EB

Yes I'm chuckling @ "For now ! 😂"

"If the need is not there, at this stage, I would not jump to 2022"

If I keep 2016 (for now), then were do we stand with the issue of the GPU? Do I need to enable the iGPU in the Bios? Or just rock on and see what happens?

And lastly why do you guys keep referring to a "Headless Horse Man"? Please know I had nitghtmares as a kid!

Thank You

Mike

@CarpentersMate

Headless Ghost

Google is not your friend.

Ray.

Yoo Ray

Levity - Levity Man! 😂

If I keep 2016 (for now), then were do we stand with the issue of the GPU? Do I need to enable the iGPU in the Bios? Or just rock on and see what happens?

Thank You Guys

Mike

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike.

I had the same problem as you with the same google results when I first heard about them as well.

In the end I added the search line 'electronic monitor emulator'. Then I had to figure out why such price differences occurred. Basically the more gullible you are, the more you pay.😉 Do make sure you get the correct socket fitting as headless ghosts come in HDMI and Display port versions.

2016 was before my time. I started with MEP with the 2018 version.

At that point I was already using two monitors for my DAW setup.

Plugging a monitor in both the Intel HDMI port and the nvidia HDMI port enabled both GPUs.

To get the program to mainly use the Intel GPU in Windows 10 you would go to Windows Settings \ Display \ Graphics settings \ Choose an app (videodelux) to set preference (Select Desktop app and find it's exe.) Add to list.(or lack thereof of)

You should get a selection of power modes. Choose 'Power Saving Mode' and save.

If you only have one monitor and want to plug the monitor into the nvidia card then the Intel HDMI port must have a Headless ghost inserted for it to be active unless your bios allows to the do it from there or it normally remains dormant.

Whether that was relevant to MEP 2016 I can't say because I don't know.

Sorry.