Fitting bar to imported external loop

Sven-Frster wrote on 6/21/2020, 9:39 AM

Hey guys,

after some struggle I was finally able to import an external guitar loop into Musik Maker. I used a Digitech JamMan to record an audio loop with my guitar, saved that loop as an .ogg file with their software and was able to import it into Music Maker. However, I'm having trouble aligning the bar (and in effect the grid) to my loop. It is roughly at 76 bpm but when I set Music Maker to that bpm it just slows down my loop. How do I fit my bar to my loop?

Software information:

Music Maker Version 28.0.0.12

Windows 10

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emmrecs wrote on 6/21/2020, 10:49 AM

@Sven-Frster

Welcome to the Magix forums.

I can't answer your direct question because I honestly don't know if what you want to do is possible, but are you aware you are several patches behind in your version of MM? The current latest is 28.0.3.51.

Jeff
Forum Moderator

Sven-Frster wrote on 6/21/2020, 11:50 AM

Thank you.

I updated now but it still didn't help.

johnebaker wrote on 6/21/2020, 1:43 PM

@Sven-Frster

Start a new project import the audio loop if the Remix Agent does not open select the audio loop and open the Remix Agent, Tempo & Beat recognition (J key),

work through the dialogs - at step 4 use the setting shown below

HTH

John EB

Sven-Frster wrote on 6/22/2020, 2:15 PM

Thanks for the answer. I tried this before, however the program tells me that I need an object that is at least 15 seconds long - when I elongate the loop to over 15 seconds it still tells me the same though. Am I overseeing something here?

johnebaker wrote on 6/22/2020, 2:30 PM

@Sven-Frster

. . . . program tells me that I need an object that is at least 15 seconds long - when I elongate the loop to over 15 seconds it still tells me the same though. Am I overseeing something here . . . .

You need a longer loop.

Fifteen seconds is the minimum time needed to get a reasonable assessment of what the tempo is any smaller and the variability would to too much limiting accuracy, statistically a minimum sample of 20 beats would give a meaningful tempo, however that relies on a low degree of variance between beats. The higher the sample size ie the more beats, the higher the tempo accuracy.

The Remix agent works with the original file, stretching it in MMM is does not affect the original audio loop - only what you hear and export.

HTH

John EB

Sven-Frster wrote on 6/22/2020, 2:36 PM

By stretching I mean that I just "looped the loop" a couple of times. Shouldn't that work?

browj2 wrote on 6/22/2020, 2:38 PM

@Sven-Frster

Hi,

Did you try opening a new project, adjusting the BPM to 76, then importing the loop? I presume that your loop does not come with BPM info in the properties.

John CB

Sven-Frster wrote on 6/22/2020, 2:43 PM

@Sven-Frster

Hi,

Did you try opening a new project, adjusting the BPM to 76, then importing the loop? I presume that your loop does not come with BPM info in the properties.

John CB

Yeah I tried that - it will still just slow my loop down, not adjust the bar.

johnebaker wrote on 6/22/2020, 3:17 PM

@Sven-Frster

. . . . By stretching I mean that I just "looped the loop" a couple of times. Shouldn't that work? . . . .

No you still only have the original loop played twice - as I said the Remix agent works with the original file.

The solution is to create a longer loop, you can always trim it in MMM to fit the rest of the composition.

John EB

Sven-Frster wrote on 6/23/2020, 2:34 AM

Alright, thank you. I'll do that.