Hi, welcome to the Magix forums, and thanks for giving the details of your computer and version of VPX you have.

I see nothing at all "wrong" with your computer spec, although the fact you are still running Win 7 could have a bearing on your situation.

However, you state you are using FullHD 30fps video filmed from an action-cam.  It would be very useful if you could download the free MediaInfo utility from here, install it and point it at one of the files from your action cam. Then post the results of the Text view here. I have a suspicion that your camera may be recording at a variable frame rate; such footage provides all sorts of problems for many video editing programs.

In the meantime, you could try getting VPX to create proxy files of your footage. These are "lower" resolution copies of the originals, designed to allow much smoother editing and playback. Once you are ready to export your footage in its final format, VPX will use the "full" resolution original files, rather than the proxies, hence the export will be in as high a quality as the export format you choose will allow.

Or, you can also lower the playback resolution of the footage on the timeline by clicking the lightning flash symbol at the bottom right hand corner of the Program video screen. Again, this affects ONLY the footage as you are working; the final export will always use the full resolution originals.

HTH

Jeff

EDIT: beaten (and corrected) by John EB, again!!! 😀😀

Thank you both for taking the time to respond. So johnebaker you are saying that I should in fact install VPX on my "older" computer which has an Intel Core i7-6700 CPU? That has an Intel HD 530 on-chip adapter. It is sitting all lonely in a dusty corner after being "bested" by the new one:) Here is the "Text View" you requested emmrecs (LiquidImage FHD Goggles Cam):

General
Complete name                            : D:\AdvRides\2018-01-26\VID00002.MOV
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : QuickTime
Codec ID                                 : qt   0000.00 (qt  )
File size                                : 2.28 GiB
Duration                                 : 28 min 59 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 11.3 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 1989-01-16 20:02:38
Tagged date                              : UTC 1989-01-16 20:02:38
AMBA                                     :

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L4
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames               : 4 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=15
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 28 min 59 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 11.1 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 14.9 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Clean aperture width                     : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Clean aperture height                    : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.179
Stream size                              : 2.26 GiB (99%)
Title                                    : Ambarella AVC / Ambarella AVC
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 1989-01-16 20:02:38
Tagged date                              : UTC 1989-01-16 20:02:38

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 28 min 59 s
Bit rate mode                            : Constant
Bit rate                                 : 128 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 26.5 MiB (1%)
Title                                    : Ambarella AAC / Ambarella AAC
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 1989-01-16 20:02:38
Tagged date                              : UTC 1989-01-16 20:02:38

Hi

. . . . I should in fact install VPX on my "older" computer which has an Intel Core i7-6700 CPU? That has an Intel HD 530 on-chip adapter. . . . .

That, IMO, will perform better than the new one, especially if the new one is a gaming machine as well - I personally would keep the two functions, gaming and video editing separate, in my experience gaming computers do not make the best video editting machines.

Another issue you may have is the MOV files - these should import OK, however as the Format profile is Quicktime, you may have to install Quicktime Essentials if there are any issues importing.

HTH

John EB

I do absolutely zero gaming at all - this is a computer I built purely for video editing. It is super-clean. The files import fine. But when I go to apply any effect I may as well go to starbucks and buy a coffee it takes so long to do anything. I am not exaggerating - many minutes between clicks. And trying to tweak something already applied - forget it...

I will resurrect the "old" computer and install VPX demo and compare, though that one only has 16GB of Ram and an older Crucial 500GB SSD Drive. But if it kicks this one's ass then I can get a bigger faster SSD for that. With regards to Windows 7 vs 10 - did the world not edit Video at decent speeds before Windows 10 arrived?

A question, if I put the Nvidia Quadro in the older computer and use it to drive my three Monitors, will VPX still be able to use the Intel Video Chip on the CPU to speed things up? Or does it have to be the "active" adapter. I don't want to lose the ability to drive my multi-monitor setup that the Quadro does via the display ports.

Hi

. . . . With regards to Windows 7 vs 10 - did the world not edit Video at decent speeds before Windows 10 arrived? . . . . .

Yes and no however it is not the Windows version that is at issue - it is the video format, which was predominantly SD at 720 x 480 or 720 x 576 resolution when Windows 7 was released, whereas now it is predominantly Full HD at 1920 x 1080 with 4K at 3840 x 2160 making inroads as the upcoming standard, both of which need significantly more CPU/GPU power.

Additionally a lot of the effects are HWA accelerated which is probably why you have time to make a tea or coffee between clicks.

. . . . if I put the Nvidia Quadro in the older computer and use it to drive my three Monitors, will VPX still be able to use the Intel Video Chip on the CPU to speed things up . . . .

That should work, it is just a case of persuading VPX to use the iGPU - perhaps @Scenestealer can chip in on this one, I personally avoid NVidia cards, if I must use a 3rd party card I prefer AMD.

I can drive 3 monitors from my Intel HD4600 GPU (which is now reasonably old), via VGA, DVI and HDMI, without issue and it renders Full HD video in real time or better, depending on the complexity of the timeline.

HTH

John EB

I should get HWA in Windows 7...no?

I have 3 x 27" QHD monitors so I cannot use (nor would want to) the VGA connector. Ideally VPX would see the Intel chip while the Nvdia would happily drive the monitors via Display Port. I guess there is only one way to find out....

Hi

HWA has nothing to do with the Windows version - it is hardware dependant, ie depends on you having a GPU or graphics card that is supported by the software. In the case of your 'old' computer there is the HD4600 integrated GPU which is supported by the program and can be used for HWA - this is the same GPU I am using on my PC and laptop.

The only downside to the HD4600 is that it does not support H.265 acceleration.

HTH

John EB

My bad - i mis-read your post - that it was a limitation of Windows 7, but on re-reading saw that you were referring to the GPU/CPU choice

Hi

I agree with most of what John and Jeff have written here, but have to say I think there is something seriously wrong with your PC setup. Either that or the footage you are testing with has some peculiarity that VPX does not like. Have you tried some avchd footage from a camcorder (preferably not .mov)?

Have you observed Task Manager and Performance monitor whilst editing to see if anything is maxing out there.

I think Magix have optimised their programs to take advantage of newer codecs in W10 but the difference would be subtle.

I would definitely try VPX on your i7 6700 as this is what I use with a slight overclock (see my sig.). Tests by some members have shown that clock speed is more beneficial than additional cores over 4. Do not worry about the speed off the SSD as an SSD does not gain VPX much over a standard HDD.

The Quadro should be fine in your old rig but you may need to enable it in the Advanced Bios > System Agent graphics settings if you can not see the HD530 GPU and the Nvidia GPU enabled in Device Manager. You also need to have both graphics adapters cabled to a monitor (even both to the same monitor if it has 2 inputs). The HD530 will give you H264 and H265 acceleration on encoding and decoding (H265 encoding up to 30fps 10bit) and you can switch between the onboard and discreet GPU in Program Settings > Display tab,for play back of the timeline, to see which will give you the smoothest playback. The HD530 outputs will display QFHD and 4K. Despite John EB's dislike for Nvidia, Magix actually say their playback performance is optimised for Nvidia cards.

Peter

Thank you for this info Peter, I have not tried other footage as this was all supposed to be about documenting Bike Riders out in the desert using the POV Cam I purchased but I do take your point - it is an older product (in fact the manufacturer has gone bust: LiquidImage). When I try to do any effects to the footage it is maxed out at almost 100% across all 12 threads - between 95 and 99%.

After starting this thread and the advice presented above I was thinking of replacing the Mainboard and CPU in the new computer so started searching for the fastest processor that will still run Windows 7. My rather expensive and high-end mainboard cannot support any IntelGPU CPU's. So it looks like the 6700K is the way to go. The 6700 I have cannot be over-clocked so I need to get the "K" version and then pick a decent board. Of course I lose the 10Gb Network adapters but I will buy an adapter to get that back.

Interesting thread.

I've done some updating on my camera equipment, and currently not taking advantage of all the 4K features that come with it because of my PC inability to edit it. I've been thinking about what it would take to update the PC to make this happen. Few years ago while using Magix products I went out of my way to include a Nvdia K2200 graphics card, and things are running good, but I can't edit 4K. For now, I shoot everything AVCHD 1920x1080.

I like 2 monitors, SSD C: drive, mulitple other drives. II'd like to edit 4K on mulitiple timelines. What's is the best config I should be looking at, and to continue using Magix VPX.