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browj2 wrote on 5/20/2020, 3:07 PM

@MichaelT33

Hi,

With MEP Plus/Premium, up to 4 cameras, 0 with MEP basic, 9 with Video Pro X.

Here is a tutorial that I did way back that may help you; it's the same process in VPX as in MEP.

Describe in more detail how you are doing this, and give us some screen shots.

John CB

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MichaelT33 wrote on 5/20/2020, 4:34 PM

Hi John

Perfect. Thank you. I tried again, and before I entered multicam, I added all the clips to the timeline. That actually did the trick. Don't know why I didn't do this in the beginning. :-|

I have an other question, that is a bit of the original topic. I have huge performance issues. I have 3 videoclips recorded in 4K 60fps. The preview window lags a lot, so I can't see what's going on. I have a Ryzen 7 3800x CPU. It get's loaded "only" 70%. GPU less than 10%. Am I missing something here? It's a brand new machine, and I expected a lot more. Can I tweak MEP in some way?

I actually stopped trying to use Davinci Resolve because of performance issues. It's even worse in Davinci compared to MEP.

Thanks a lot

Br.
Michael

CubeAce wrote on 5/20/2020, 9:05 PM

@MichaelT33

Hi Michael.

Unfortunately MEP takes more advantage of Intel inboard graphics on their processors than a graphics cards GPU or any CPU. You may find you are not getting any hardware acceleration at all and it's all running through the CPU using only the software.

Ray.

 

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Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

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1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

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MichaelT33 wrote on 5/21/2020, 1:15 AM

@CubeAce

Ohh... so me having a Radeon RX 580 is bad? What should I aim for instead? Or is it both my CPU and GPU that should maybe be Intel?

Thanks

Br.
Michael

CubeAce wrote on 5/21/2020, 2:15 AM

@MichaelT33

Hi Michael.

Although MEP will work on your machine the video effects and exporting will mostly be dealt with by the software itself with little to no help from your hardware, which is where apparently most of the performance boost would be.

Then again, if your Ryzen processor has enough cores that are fast enough and can all be utilized, then the software should run faster but I have no idea how that would compare to the requirements given out by Magix to run their software effectively. The page the MEP range of editors is not as precise with it's information as the page is for VP-X where it states.

All MAGIX programs are developed with user-friendliness in mind so that all the basic features run smoothly and can be fully controlled, even on low-performance computers. Some advanced program features demand more of your computer's processing power.

To get the most from these features, your system should at least meet the recommended requirements.

Processor: Double core processor with 2.4 GHz (recommended: Intel quad-core processor with 2.8 GHz or better) RAM: 4 GB (8 GB recommended) Graphics card: Onboard, min. resolution 1280 x 1024, 512 MB VRAM and DirectX 11 support (recommended: Intel Graphics HD 520 for MPEG2/AVC/HEVC or NVIDIA GeForce 1050 for HEVC, or better)* Hard drive space: 2 GB for program installation (recommended: 10 GB) Sound card: (recommended: Multi-channel sound card for surround sound editing) Optical drive: DVD drive (only for installation of the box version)

Program languages: English, Deutsch, Français, Nederlands Internet connection: Required for registering and validating the program, as well as for some program features. Program requires one-time registration. *An active, integrated graphics unit with installed, up-to-date drivers is required.
 

Now, although this is the PC specification requirements for VP-X, I would suggest anyone working seriously with multiple channels of 4K footage should make those specs their minimum requirements needed for a workable system as well as think about more ram than they specify.

Ray.

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

MichaelT33 wrote on 5/21/2020, 2:26 AM

@CubeAce

Thank for your answer.

I have

MB: MSI MPG x570 Gaming Edge Wifi
CPU: Ryzen 7 x3800 (8 cores)
Ram: 32GB
VGA: Radeon RX 580

So overall I should be good. But for Magix, I think it all comes down to the GPU. So is it enough to have the NVIDIA GPU instead of AMD (replace graphics card), or will I be better of going for the Onboard Intel Chip? Meaning a different MB and CPU. But in this case, don't I need to use the onboard VGA, to actually use this chip?

Thanks

Br.
Michael Trabjerg

johnebaker wrote on 5/21/2020, 2:36 AM

@MichaelT33

Hi and welcome to the forum

. . . . so me having a Radeon RX 580 is bad . . . .

The AMD processor is the issue, as @CubeAce has said, the program utilises the Intel integrated GPU (iGPU) for the majority of its speed enhancement - ie Hardware Acceleration (HWA).

You can have a graphics card installed alongside an Intel processor with iGPU - if you look at my signature, you will notice that I have an RTX 2060 graphics card installed - this is not used by MEP and only for HEVC video export in VPX. The card was installed for use with Blender.

You do need an Intel processor with the UHD 600 iGPU or better, ie UHD 630 for working with 4K video to take full advantage of HWA.

If you go for a new motherboard and processor, you can still retain the Radeon, however if it disables the integrated GPU you will need to turn it back on in the BIOS and, if you are running Windows 10, also need to set MEP to use the 'Power saving' GPU in Windows Graphics settings.

HTH

John EB
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MichaelT33 wrote on 5/21/2020, 2:48 AM

@johnebaker

Thanks John.
Which MB+CPU would you recommend, for me to be able to edit 3 x 4K videos in multicam mode? As I can see, I don't even need an extra VGA card. I should be good with the internal one for MEP. Please correct me, if I'm wrong.

Thanks

Br.
Michael

johnebaker wrote on 5/21/2020, 2:59 AM

@MichaelT33

Hi

I am using and a MSI Z370 Gaming Plus motherboard - with an Intel i7-8700K processor.

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

MichaelT33 wrote on 5/21/2020, 3:02 AM

@johnebaker Nice. Thanks you. I will have to look into this. Thanks a lot.

Br.
Michael