@AB-Singh

Hi

I have seen this behaviour under certain circumstances.

How are you shutting down the computer when you are finished on it, and are you closing the program before shutting down?

Is this a laptop or PC?

BTW you have not responded to the previous issue you had with burning DVD's - please do so.

John EB
Forum Moderator

(1) I do see the message "do you want to close current project. If I click on that button, it closes an then opens the new project. However, that is not an acceptable answer. Every s/w in the world has a button under "File" etc. to close the open document. MAGIX programmers r not in touch with real world. They should add "Close" button.

(2) About closing, I always close all open programs before shutting down the computer. I have no objection to see the last project open automatically. I am recommeding MAGIX programmers to add the "close" button. Such mistakes create bad impression on the users, and create hurdles in the sale of the product.

@AB-Singh I agree 100%. It is completely against Windows convention to have to open a new whatever just to close the current whatever.

@AB-Singh

Hi,

(1) I do see the message "do you want to close current project. If I click on that button, it closes an then opens the new project. However, that is not an acceptable answer. Every s/w in the world has a button under "File" etc. to close the open document. MAGIX programmers r not in touch with real world. They should add "Close" button.

I disagree. No "Close" button is required. Only one project can be open at a time and a project has to be open in MEP, a new one or an existing one. You simply save your project and exit the program - there is no need to close the project and then exit the program as that would be redundant and poor design. I use the X button at the top right in almost every program that I have to exit the program.

Most programs require that you save before quitting or they will ask you if you want to save; if yes, the project/document is saved and the program is closed; if no, then the program closes without saving. I use MS Office programs and do not need to close any documents before exiting. I have many other programs - again, no need to close first and then exit, just save and exit.

(2) About closing, I always close all open programs before shutting down the computer. I have no objection to see the last project open automatically. I am recommeding MAGIX programmers to add the "close" button. Such mistakes create bad impression on the users, and create hurdles in the sale of the product.

Yes, you close the program - no need to close the project/document first, as I stated.

There is no mistake and no "close" button is required. Again, if you close a project in MEP, a new one is opened - you cannot have no project in MEP, so don't bother closing a project, save and exit. What you are asking would be a useless major programming change as Magix would have to allow for a no project state. As well, you are asking for an added useless step - save, close, exit. Just exit the program!

Lastly, I don't recall ever seeing MEP or VPX open to an existing project except as mentioned by John EB - I have to either select a new project or an existing project. Of course, I do not turn off the start-up dialogue. I suspect that this may be your case.

Do you get the start-up dialogue screen when starting MEP (New Project/Load Project vertical tabs)? Or did you turn it off by clicking on "Don't show this window again?"

EDIT: I just recalled that a version or so ago, MEP and VPX would not properly shut down for quite a while and would stay open as a Background Process until whatever they were doing was finished. Shutting down the computer before the process was closed would cause the program to reopen with the same project upon starting up the computer. I have not had this happen for a long time. I believe that it was related to the Store. Which version (see under Help, About) do you have? The latest patch for MEP 2021 Plus/Premium is 20.0.1.80.

John CB

(1) I am sorry I disagree with your 1st comments - no offense. Almost all programs start with a blank screen. Look at the Microsoft Word; SONY Movie Studio 13; VIDBOX "Video Conversion for PC"; ROXIO Easy VHS to DVD Plus; FreeCAD for mechanical engineers are only a few examples.

(2) I did not get any start-up dialog screen, as you mentioned. Just now, I went into Settings--> Program... and clicked on "Reactivate dialogs". I closed the program, and then reopened. Sure I am getting that screen now. Thanks. This screen is much better.

Well! this issue of providing a "Close" button for the current open project is not worth spending our valuable time. If the MAGIX team does not want to change, it is OK with me. At present, I am reporting more serious BUGS in the s/w. I have posted (and created a bug report) for DVD burning problem. Let us see how MAGIX team respond.

@AB-Singh

Hi

. . . .  Almost all programs start with a blank screen. Look at the Microsoft Word; . . . .

I disagree with this - most programs open with a screen giving you options for you to select what you want do, and they are the default on installation, eg to use one of your examples

Microsoft Word:

To not see the Word or MEP start-up screens, at some point the relevant options shown below have been changed - these require user input as they are the defaults.

John EB
Forum Moderator

To be fair, I'm pretty sure my Word only started up with an example screen by default recently (on my upgrade to 365 from Office 2010). I actually find that menu screen annoying. I'm starting up Word, of course I want a blank Word document. Thanks to @johnebaker, I can get rid of it! 😉

There's something fishy going on here. Just recently, when I try to open a project, I have been getting quite a few messages saying there is a backup available that is later than the last saved project file (or words to that effect).

What this means is that I have allegedly closed MEP, without having saved the open project, because there is a more recent backup of it. That means that MEP did not prompt me to save the project when I closed MEP. I could understand me saying "no" by mistake, but not the number of times it has been happening recently.

On this latest opening of a recent project, there was 9 autobackups after my last manual save, which means I closed MEP and either it didn't prompt me to save or I clicked "no, I don't want to save" (I wouldn't do that) or I clicked Yes but it didn't save.

I don't recall if I actually closed the project (File>New Project), or whether I just exited with it open, and used the MEP finishing save prompt.

@AAProds

Hi Al.

I always choose 'Save As' and save before I close the project so never get the 'Do you want to save' popup.

Having the bottom box selected to show all files I can then also see the backup files.

Ray.

@AAProds

Hi Alwyn

. . . . What this means is that I have allegedly closed MEP, without having saved the open project, because there is a more recent backup of it. That means that MEP did not prompt me to save the project when I closed MEP. I could understand me saying "no" by mistake, but not the number of times it has been happening recently. . . .

I have had this a couple times with different projects, my process is to save the project then close the program.

From the date/times of the project file I saved and the backup, there is only a second or two between them, the BAK file being the latter. AFAICS this is just one of those moments that the auto save kicks in between saving the project and closing the program.

May be worth checking if your are the same.

HTH

John EB