Greetings @Piotr-

Further to what @johnebaker asks it would also be useful if you could anayse a clip that previously caused no problem fo comparison purposes.

I had a very similar problem to this with my previous system, I say similar because my problem occured more often with a hundred+ photos dumped into MEP at one time than with several videos.

When you add your videos and MEP seems to hang and become unresponsive, open Task Manager (Control Alt Delete) and look at the MEP entry and see if the CPU % is changing and the system drive is spinning.

When my system used to hang like this I had 100% c drive spinning and the CPU % fluctuated from low to high for (sometimes) 20 minutes or so. It was almost as if MEP was trying to load every photo pixel or video frame into RAM and when finding Ram was full putting the data in Virtual Memory even though actual Ram usage was very low. It was very strange and totally frustrating.

After some time - as I say sometimes up to 20 minutes - MEP behaved itself and performed normally.

Now all of this is assuming that your problem is the same as my problem was. Check the CPU usage and disk spinning next time this happens to you and just let MEP do what it wants to do until it's happy and decides to play properly..

Its not ideal and, of course, it shouldn't happen but where's the fun in using a program that does what you want it to do 😋

AndyW

Hi.

@johnebaker

Thanks alot for answers. I think that my problem isn’t conected with hard disc becauce I use two SSD. First SSD (500 GB – occupied in 50 %) is for system and software and second (500 GB - free space 140 GB) for movies, pictures, MP3 and somme software - included MEP. I think that speed of writing files on SSD during import is not a problem in this case. I have the latest version drivers (NVIDIA Studio) in graphic card, and options in MEP in the Program settings, Device options tab the Import, Processing and Export options are set to the GTX 1060 - three options „Other” are uncheck.

I use two videorecorders, first is SONY. Informaton from Mediainfo:

Ogólne

ID : 0 (0x0)

Complete name : Z:\

CompleteName_Last : Z:\

Format : BDAV

Format/Info : Blu-ray Video

File size : 6,03 GB

Duration : 17s 292 ms

Overall bit rate mode : Zmienna

Overall bit rate : 2.993 Mb/s

Maximum Overall bit rate : 28,0 Mb/s

Recorded date : 2022-06-08 17:56:00+02:00

Writing application : Sony HDR-CX450

 

Wideo

ID : 4113 (0x1011)

Menu ID : 1 (0x1)

Format : AVC

Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile : High@L4.2

Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC : Tak

Format settings, Reference frames : 2 klatki

Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=12

Codec ID : 27

Duration : 17s 280 ms

Bit rate mode : Zmienna

Bit rate : 2.874 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate : 26,0 Mb/s

Width : 1.920 pikseli

Height : 1.080 pikseli

Display aspect ratio : 16:9

Frame rate : 50,000 kl/s

Color space : YUV

Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0

Bit depth : 8 bitów

Scan type : Progresywny

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 27.721

Stream size : 5,78 GB (96%)

IrisFNumber : 3.400000

 

Audio

ID : 4352 (0x1100)

Menu ID : 1 (0x1)

Format : AC-3

Format/Info : Audio Coding 3

Commercial name : Dolby Digital

Codec ID : 129

Duration : 17s 280 ms

Bit rate mode : Stała

Bit rate : 448 kb/s

Channel(s) : 6 kanałów

Channel layout : L R C LFE Ls Rs

Sampling rate : 48,0 kHz

Frame rate : 31,250 kl/s (1536 SPF)

Compression mode : Lossy

Stream size : 945 KiB (0%)

Service kind : Complete Main

 

Tekst

ID : 4608 (0x1200)

Menu ID : 1 (0x1)

Format : PGS

Codec ID : 144

Duration : 16s 735 ms

 

Second is DJI OsmoAction - information from Mediainfo:

General

Complete name : Z:\p

Format : MPEG-4

Format profile : JVT

Codec ID : avc1 (avc1/isom)

File size : 755 MiB

Duration : 1 min 26 s

Overall bit rate mode : Variable

Overall bit rate : 73.2 Mb/s

Encoded date : UTC 2022-07-02 17:00:35

Tagged date : UTC 2022-07-02 17:00:35

Comment : DE=None, Type=Normal, HQ=Normal, RS=On, Mode=P

 

Video

ID : 1

Format : AVC

Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile : High@L5

Format settings : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC : Yes

Format settings, Reference frames : 1 frame

Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30

Codec ID : avc1

Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding

Duration : 1 min 26 s

Bit rate mode : Variable

Bit rate : 73.0 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate : 80.0 Mb/s

Width : 1 920 pixels

Height : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio : 16:9

Frame rate mode : Constant

Frame rate : 50.000 FPS

Color space : YUV

Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0

Bit depth : 8 bits

Scan type : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.704

Stream size : 753 MiB (100%)

Title : DJI.AVC

Language : English

Encoded date : UTC 2022-07-02 17:00:35

Tagged date : UTC 2022-07-02 17:00:35

Color range : Limited

Color primaries : BT.709

Transfer characteristics : BT.709

Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Codec configuration box : avcC

 

Audio

ID : 2

Format : AAC LC

Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity

Codec ID : mp4a-40-2

Duration : 1 min 26 s

Bit rate mode : Constant

Bit rate : 192 kb/s

Channel(s) : 2 channels

Channel layout : L R

Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)

Compression mode : Lossy

Stream size : 1.95 MiB (0%)

Title : DJI.AAC

Language : English

Encoded date : UTC 2022-07-02 17:00:35

Tagged date : UTC 2022-07-02 17:00:35

 

Other

Type : meta

Duration : 20 ms

Bit rate mode : Constant

Default : No

 

@me_again

 

When MEP hanged (crashed) information from Task Manager about MEP indicates that the CPU and memory is „0” % or a few more than 0%.

 

@Piotr-

Hi

Thanks for the MediaInfo analysis.

The cameras are using standard formats and codecs, so no issue there.

However there is a potential issue with the DJI video - the average bitrate of 73.2 Mb/s is too high for this resolution and framerate of video - the typical Bitrate I would expect for a 1920 x 1080 resolution video at 50 fps would be 18 - 24 Mb/s

This high bitrate may be the cause of the crashing.

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

The files size and bit rate from his Osmo Action is not as high as from my Osmo Pocket. It can record in mov as well though, which has been problematic for me so I stick to using MP4 (H264) recording which works just fine.

The first file however seems to have six channel audio.

@Piotr-

Hi. If you are using mov to record, try switching to MP4. Mov seems to be set as default on the Osmo series. You may have to do that via the Mimo app.

 

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

The surround sound is not and issue - my files from my old previous Sony camera are the same specification and they import with no issue.

IIRC we had another user with 1080p at ~80 Mb/s with a similar issue a while ago, I think that was also a DJI camera or drone.

My current Sony records at 80 Mb/s to 100 Mb/s for 4K UHD which has 4 x the amount of pixels as 1920 x 1080

Piotr does not have the additional advantage of an Intel iGPU.

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

I don't know if or how MEP/MMS 2022 has changed how it does things but I do notice that if importing huge files (or I assume a large bunch of smaller files) that there is excessive amount of disc writing to the C: drive for some considerable time after the files appear to be loaded. To me that says everything is not really ready to roll yet although my system can cope.

if @Piotr- is noticing similar activity I suggest he waits for that to die down before trying to proceed with doing anything else, like playing the timeline.

I don't see a lot of activity from my Intel GPU during this process of ingesting files into the program.

Ray.

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

Did you have a look at the disc activity using Windows Resource Monitor?

John EB

@johnebaker

Hi John.

No I hadn't but I've just done a complete refreshed boot up and done as you asked. There will be some interference from Running OBS to record at the same time I guess but here is my result.

A slightly shorter loading time with a fresh reboot but still longer than I would expect. I confess the resulting data means little to me.Do you need a different view?

Ray.

 

Hi

I will try to use solution @CubeAce and during the next proces import movie files will wait a few time - maybe MEP will run. 😄

This day i changed option type of files in DJI to .mov. Unfortunately Bitrate is the same like Mp4 files about 80 Mb/s. This is information from Mediainfo:

General

Complete name : L:\DCIM\100MEDIA\DJI_0758.MOV

Format : MPEG-4

Format profile : QuickTime

Codec ID : qt 2014.02 (qt )

File size : 670 MiB

Duration : 1 min 21 s

Overall bit rate mode : Variable

Overall bit rate : 68.9 Mb/s

Encoded date : UTC 2022-07-03 09:20:17

Tagged date : UTC 2022-07-03 09:20:17

Comment : DE=None, Type=Normal, HQ=Normal, RS=On, Mode=P

 

Video

ID : 1

Format : AVC

Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec

Format profile : High@L5

Format settings : CABAC / 1 Ref Frames

Format settings, CABAC : Yes

Format settings, Reference frames : 1 frame

Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=30

Codec ID : avc1

Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding

Duration : 1 min 21 s

Bit rate mode : Variable

Bit rate : 68.6 Mb/s

Maximum bit rate : 80.0 Mb/s

Width : 1 920 pixels

Height : 1 080 pixels

Display aspect ratio : 16:9

Frame rate mode : Constant

Frame rate : 50.000 FPS

Color space : YUV

Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0

Bit depth : 8 bits

Scan type : Progressive

Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.662

Stream size : 668 MiB (100%)

Title : DJI.AVC

Language : English

Encoded date : UTC 2022-07-03 09:20:17

Tagged date : UTC 2022-07-03 09:20:17

Color range : Limited

Color primaries : BT.709

Transfer characteristics : BT.709

Matrix coefficients : BT.709

Codec configuration box : avcC

 

Audio

ID : 2

Format : AAC LC

Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity

Codec ID : mp4a-40-2

Duration : 1 min 21 s

Bit rate mode : Constant

Bit rate : 192 kb/s

Channel(s) : 2 channels

Channel layout : L R

Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz

Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)

Compression mode : Lossy

Stream size : 1.84 MiB (0%)

Title : DJI.AAC

Language : English

Encoded date : UTC 2022-07-03 09:20:17

Tagged date : UTC 2022-07-03 09:20:17

 

Other

Type : meta

Duration : 20 ms

Bit rate mode : Constant

Default : No

 

I think that it isn’t a problem with a high bitrate movie clips from DJI because I use this camcoder 2 years and it is first time to struggle with import into MEP. Additionally, such problem also accures durring import movie files form Sony’s moviecamera that have lower bitrate than DJI.

 

Regards Peter

Hi.

I tried to use solution @CubeAce and during import video files (when MEP had been crashing) waited about 20 - 30 minutes. Unfortunately MEP was stil hanged that problem isn't solved. I have to import files one by one.

Regards Peter

@Piotr-

Hi Peter.

The main differences I see in your setup compared to mine is (if I'm reading this correctly) is that you are running MEP from your second drive. That is something I would never do. All my programs reside on my C: drive.

Your project files are residing on the same drive as the program is trying to run. That's an awful lot of data being shuffled around and while solid state drives are good at speed transfers for small files the performance will drop significantly when handling larger files. Combine that with you having the drive reading and writing both program tasks and loading files and something probably has to give when trying to load that amount of data.

Ray.