Lagging / Sluggish video play back while editing 4 track video

Zaza_from_Johor wrote on 6/4/2018, 8:53 AM

I am trying to editing a 4 track video with MEP 17.

I always line up my tracks / choose the master audio and then which track to choose while playing back the tracks.

I never had a problem with editing multi track video until today I have noticed that it is super sluggish. I just recorded (with my phone) what is happening when I press play.

Would you know what is the sudden cause of this?

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RogerGunkel wrote on 6/4/2018, 9:12 AM

Welcome to the forum , however unfortunately, all your post shows is that you are not able to play back a video from Youtube properly, which could be down to a multitude of reasons.

You need to give a lot more information about your system and what you are trying to do, to enable anyone to help you. Please read this post before going further https://www.magix.info/uk/forum/please-do-the-following-before-posting-your-question--621831/

Roger

Zaza_from_Johor wrote on 6/4/2018, 10:33 AM

I tried to give a bit more info but if you watch the video you will understand.

yvon-robert wrote on 6/4/2018, 6:53 PM

Hi,

you try to run 4 video track may be HD or 4K or something with 60 frames per second your computer cpu cannot work enough to decompress video file i suggest to create proxy file before to work. Using proxy file help because the computer handle much less data to work and give a fluid playback during the time you realize your montage. When the montage is finish the computer use the original fiile to compile (rendering) the project.

Try to clean your hard drive.

Regards,

YR

browj2 wrote on 6/4/2018, 7:21 PM

@Zaza_from_Johor

As Roger and Yvon-Robert have indicated, we need more information on the files. What resolution, etc?

I suggest that you get a screen capture program rather than using a camera to record what is happening. There are many. Debut is one that I have used that is quite good, OBS is another.

@RogerGunkel

Zaza has included some system info in his signature, as he indicated.

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RogerGunkel wrote on 6/5/2018, 4:50 AM

Hi Zaza,

Apologies for not noticing your signature info and thanks John for pointing it out :-)

We need to know what camera recording format you were using and whether Magix was reading and playing the footage ok. Also what format you exported to, size, bitrate etc.

Roger

 

Zaza_from_Johor wrote on 6/5/2018, 8:11 AM

Thank you for all your answers. Here are the 4 files details:

Video 1

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\gpruv\Videos\AudioVideo\OZZY OSBOURNE Moscow 01.06.2018 ôCrazy Trainö-s1lHGH2Y3Gk.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42
File size                                : 149 MiB
Duration                                 : 6mn 24s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 3 250 Kbps
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-06-01 23:47:54
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-01 23:47:54
gsst                                     : 0
gstd                                     : 384451

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 1 frame
Format settings, GOP                     : M=1, N=60
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 6mn 24s
Bit rate                                 : 3 119 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 5 425 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 29.970 fps
Minimum frame rate                       : 29.970 fps
Maximum frame rate                       : 30.045 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.113
Stream size                              : 143 MiB (96%)
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-01 23:47:58
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 6mn 24s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 128 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 134 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 5.87 MiB (4%)
Title                                    : IsoMedia File Produced by Google, 5-11-2011
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-06-01 23:47:57
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-01 23:47:58

 

Video 2

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\gpruv\Videos\AudioVideo\OZZY OSBOURNE 'Crazy train' Live Moscow 01_06_2018-z56VVNw3Uuk.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42
File size                                : 131 MiB
Duration                                 : 5mn 34s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 3 281 Kbps
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-06-01 22:41:04
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-01 22:41:04
gsst                                     : 0
gstd                                     : 334715

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 1 frame
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 5mn 34s
Bit rate                                 : 3 150 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 4 878 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 29.729 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.115
Stream size                              : 126 MiB (96%)
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-01 22:41:06
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 5mn 34s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 128 Kbps
Maximum bit rate                         : 137 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 5.11 MiB (4%)
Title                                    : IsoMedia File Produced by Google, 5-11-2011
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-06-01 22:41:05
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-01 22:41:06

 

video 3

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\gpruv\Videos\AudioVideo\Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train - Live in Moscow 2018-6aXQaU4rhOI.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42
File size                                : 93.1 MiB
Duration                                 : 5mn 19s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 2 448 Kbps
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-06-02 21:42:52
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-02 21:42:52
gsst                                     : 0
gstd                                     : 319181

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 3 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 5mn 19s
Bit rate                                 : 2 318 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 30.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.084
Stream size                              : 88.2 MiB (95%)
Title                                    : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc. Created on: 06/02/2018.
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-06-02 21:42:52
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-02 21:42:52
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 5mn 19s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 126 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 4.78 MiB (5%)
Title                                    : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc. Created on: 06/02/2018.
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-06-02 21:42:52
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-02 21:42:52

 

Video 4

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\gpruv\Videos\AudioVideo\Ozzy Osbourne - Crazy Train (Olympic Stadium,Moscow.June 01,2018)-SrQj6IcQKho.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID                                 : mp42
File size                                : 61.5 MiB
Duration                                 : 3mn 51s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 2 226 Kbps
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-06-01 22:33:56
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-01 22:33:56
gsst                                     : 0
gstd                                     : 231990

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Main@L3.1
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames                : 3 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 3mn 51s
Bit rate                                 : 2 128 Kbps
Width                                    : 1 280 pixels
Height                                   : 720 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 30.000 fps
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.077
Stream size                              : 58.8 MiB (96%)
Title                                    : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc. Created on: 06/01/2018.
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-06-01 22:33:56
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-01 22:33:56
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : 40
Duration                                 : 3mn 51s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 93.6 Kbps
Channel(s)                               : 1 channel
Channel positions                        : Front: C
Sampling rate                            : 44.1 KHz
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 2.59 MiB (4%)
Title                                    : ISO Media file produced by Google Inc. Created on: 06/01/2018.
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-06-01 22:33:56
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-06-01 22:33:56

 

 

 

 

 

 

emmrecs wrote on 6/5/2018, 10:18 AM

Hi, thanks for all the information.

I note you are running the latest version of MEP, so not actually "MEP 2017" as your original post says, but which variant, Standard, Plus or Premium?

The MediaInfo about the files suggests nothing "unusual", possibly apart from

ISO Media file produced by Google Inc. Created on: 06/01/2018

which implies you have downloaded them from somewhere, but the titles of them suggest they are actually recordings of four different songs? But you seem to be attempting to work in multicam mode, at least that is what is suggested by the view of your playback screen.

So, please clarify exactly what you are trying to do with these four video files.

Listening to the recording which you posted in your original question, my overwhelming impression is that you are completely overloading your audio buffer; it simply cannot handle the throughput of data you are asking it to do. It is also possible your hard drive can't "keep up" either.

Jeff

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Zaza_from_Johor wrote on 6/6/2018, 10:34 AM

To answer all your questions:

I use the premium version.

The project is simple: One concert; One song; 4 angles rendered in One video.

I have rendered several similar projects last month and apart from an expected slight sluggish video playback all was fine. I don t understand why suddenly it does not work properly.

Also, Is that normal that even though I have chosen a master track, all other track sounds can also be heard at once?

 

wongck wrote on 6/6/2018, 8:16 PM

When playback, can you see at the lower left corner, the CPU %.. . I used to get 90-100% until I put hardware acceleration to Intel instead of my Nvidia card. MEP now uses Intel hardware acceleration. I noticed this may be when I moved from very old MEP (13?) to MEP (15?) (can't really remember since years back).

So may be you can check if your MEP is using Intel hardware acceleration.

Casual home video editing just for FUN since MEP 5.5.4.1 (2006??)

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  • Win10 2004 i7-4770 3.4GHz, 32GB, 512GB Nvme, 4TB HDD, Nvidia GTX1070 (26.21.14.3160) & an old DVD writer
  • Amateur video equipment: Sony HDR-CX675, JVC GZ-MG330
Zaza_from_Johor wrote on 6/7/2018, 9:20 AM

Following the above comment, I had a look at the settings for preview in arranger and changed the video mode from standard mode to compatibility mode.... and problem solved!!

I leave the thread opened for everyone comments.

 

Zaza_from_Johor wrote on 6/23/2018, 11:47 AM

Last bit of update and I will close the thread....

Problem were not fully solved and it became annoying even to edit one track video.... the crossfades were sluggish!!!

I reset the software to "factory settings".

It seems to have done the trick....