Movie Edit Pro 2013 Premium

ajer12 wrote on 12/14/2012, 7:45 AM

I have an Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 (4 X 2.40GHz) 1066MHz FSB/8MB L2 Cache machine running 32 bit Vista with 2 Gb Ram, ASUS® P5K SE: DDR2, SATAII, PCI-e x16, 2 PCI, 3 x PCI-e x1 motherboard, a 500Gb hard drive and a 512MB GEFORCE 8600GT PCI Express + DVI + TV-OUT graphics card, in other words not your bog standard cheap computer but I am finding I'm having editing problems with my newly purchased Movie Edit Pro 2013 Premium.  Whilst trying to edit i.e. creating edit points, manipulating, deleting etc. the film then judders, sticks, jumps and makes editing virtually imposible.  Can anyone offer a solution?  I may port to a lower specification hardware Windows 7 64 bit machine to see if there is any improvement but have my doubts.

Just experimented with altering the Video Playback options under Settings/Program Settings/Playback which in itself I should get a prize for finding as the instructions in the Pdf manual aren't exactly clear.  Anyway tried enabling, disabling Video Playback/ Overload optimization for realtime playback and Instant Cache Refresh in Multicam Mode as it says this should improve performance on lower performance PCs, think my computer builder might have something to say about that but that's by the by.  Did not make the slightest difference.

What I have found is if I edit a section, save the project, come out of the program, restart, reload and play its okay ! !  Not really a practicle way of working is it.

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emmrecs wrote on 12/17/2012, 8:09 AM

Hi.

I don't have MEP 2013 so can't comment directly on that part of your question but I do use MEP MX Premium and VPX 4 so do have quite a good "handle" on using MAGIX video editing software.

I'm not sure whether, in the Settings item you listed you tried changing the Preview Resolution to "half" or even lower. This does reduce the video quality on the Preview screen but not on the final exported output.

However, I notice you only have 2 Gb RAM.  Although 32 bit OS can only "see" and use about 3.25 Gb, my experience strongly suggests that the greater the quantity the less the chance of the playback problems you are experiencing.  I have Win7, 32 bit, Intel Q9650 (4 x 3GHz) Core 2 Quad, 4Gb RAM.  Sometimes, and much of my footage is AVCHD which places very heavy demands on the computer, I experience slow response etc.  This quite definitely seems to be related to available RAM.  I have a small, free utility on my computer, RAMRush, which gives me an instant read-out on the amount of memory available; during "heavy" work on video edits it can drop to quite a low level.  (That same utility also allows me to instantly "optimize" RAM usage and so free-up some memory, presumably from background processes that are hogging it.  Almost always, using this optimization facility, I can return some semblance of "normal working" to VPX/MEP.)

On the very rare occasion that doesn't work then I, too, have no option but to save, close, reopen, work!

HTH

Jeff

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terrypin wrote on 12/17/2012, 10:25 AM

Hi,

This topic crops up a lot. In addition to the important RAM factor covered by Jeff, you might study the points in my detailed thread:

http://www.magix.info/uk/how-can-i-correct-the-choppy-playback-with-movie.knowledge.802022.html

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

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Scenestealer wrote on 12/17/2012, 5:09 PM

Hi

Just a point on the Overload optimization - doesn't the fact that it does not make any difference on your machine point to the fact that your machine is not low performance? Also the Multicam thing will only have an effect if you are doing a Multicam edit.

I think your RAM is rather low. Also make sure you have a good size pagefile set up (and on another drive than C if possible). I have a similar spec machine and 4GB RAM and have a 7000MB pagefile set up but windows managed and it often shows about 2500MB or more being used when MEP is being heavily used.

Another trick is to click the "Empty Undo and Cache Memory" command in the "Edit" Menu and this will release 100's of MB's of memory whenever it is looking too low, although you will of course lose you recent undo possibilities. 

Ss

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sem524 wrote on 7/25/2013, 6:08 PM

Terrypin ....the detail info doesn't seem to work ....not to mention that your options for your software are different than options given on the standard MEP 2013.......

 

I have a an ACER Aspire AX1420G-U5832

OS

Win 7 64-bit

CPU

AMD Athion ii x4 645

RAM

4GB (3.75)

HDD

1TB

VIDEO

NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE Graphics

I know I could use more RAM but that is why I don't have any other programs on my computer.....shouldn't this be enough to edit a 6min short down to 1 min....without it being choppy?

When I run the video it says my CPU is around 8-10 % is that an issue? How do I get it to runner at a higher percentage?

 

Thanks

 

 

terrypin wrote on 7/26/2013, 1:07 AM

 

Terrypin ....the detail info doesn't seem to work ....not to mention that your options for your software are different than options given on the standard MEP 2013...

Are you saying you methodically tried all 12 suggestions?

 

Terry, East Grinstead, UK 

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johnebaker wrote on 7/26/2013, 3:33 AM

Hi

@ajer12

What video format are you working with?

If it is HD video then your computer does not meet the mimimum specification for working with HD video.  2GB of RAM is insufficient, using a large page file on the hard drive limits the speed at which data can be read by the program.

Also bear in miind that complex video effects, transitions and collages will slow the computer down during previewing and give you jerkiness - all the effects are calculated on the fly unless you use the pre-render option.  

@sem524

. . . When I run the video it says my CPU is around 8-10 % is that an issue? How do I get it to runner at a higher percentage? . . .

Is this during previewing?  The software will use the amount of CPU time it needs, check what else is running in the background in particular Anti-virus and Anti-spamware.

John

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sem524 wrote on 7/26/2013, 12:37 PM

John-

Yes, it is during preview...I will see what programs I have running in the background.

 

Thanks

 

Terry Pin_

 

Yes, I methodically tried all 12 steps, none of them worked.

sem524 wrote on 7/26/2013, 2:02 PM

Thanks John! you were right. I had a bunch of unnecessary stuff going on in the background.  Got rid of them and my playback is great!