Movie Edit Pro is not importing the full length of my recording.

Eric-Barna wrote on 7/22/2018, 1:20 AM

I recorded game play using D3D which created an mp4 file with a length of 1:57:34. When I bring the vide into Movie Edit Pro 2015 Plus to do perform editing, Movie Edit Pro 2015 Plus shows a movie length of 1:51:31:15. Why is it not importing the full file size. If I use Xbox DVR, it shows the file with a length of 1:57:34. Is there a file limitation to Magix Movie Edit Pro 2015 Plus? Should I look to upgrade to a new version?

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johnebaker wrote on 7/22/2018, 3:15 AM

Hi

. . . . mp4 file with a length of 1:57:34. When I bring the vide into Movie Edit Pro 2015 Plus to do perform editing, Movie Edit Pro 2015 Plus shows a movie length of 1:51:31:15 . . . .

This is most likely because the video is recorded at a variable framerate, an analysis of the file using MediaInfo will confirm if this is the case - post the results from the Text view in MediaInfo.

If the video is variable framerate then it needs converting to Constant framerate.

. . . . D3D . . .

Does this software have a constant framerate recording mode , if so then use this for future recordings.

HTH

John EB

 

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Eric-Barna wrote on 7/22/2018, 10:29 AM

Yes, it shows variable. Text is as follows. I will see if I can change that in the program. If not, I will use Xbox DVR to trim the video and then bring it into Magix. I did that once before last week and it worked. Thank you for the reply and the information.

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Eric PC\Videos\MWOClient_2018_07_21_210002_0.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 37.3 GiB
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 45.4 Mb/s
Writing application                      : Lavf54.6.100

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames               : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate                                 : 45.2 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Variable
Frame rate                               : 28.458 FPS
Minimum frame rate                       : 1.000 FPS
Maximum frame rate                       : 30.000 FPS
Original frame rate                      : 30.000 FPS
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.767
Stream size                              : 37.1 GiB (100%)
Color range                              : Limited

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 1 h 57 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 153 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 320 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 129 MiB (0%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1

Eric-Barna wrote on 7/22/2018, 1:23 PM

I investigated further, and D3DGear cannot be set to a fixed framerate. You give it a frame rate to record at, but the actual recording speed can vary. I even did a test recording at 25 frames per second for 34:20. Magix Movie Edit Pro 2015 Plus could not accept the full time length. I used Xbox DVR to cut the length down to 7:52. Magix then could accept the full length of the file, despite none of the setting beings changed. I added commentary to the video, trimmed the length down to 7:18:03, and exported the file as a new MP4. The video will be loaded to YouTube. I view the problem as a limitation in Magix that should be patched. I can make the raw video available if Magix would like to use it to research or whatever it wants to do with it.

johnebaker wrote on 7/22/2018, 2:11 PM

@Eric-Barna

. . . . D3DGear cannot be set to a fixed framerate. . . . . I view the problem as a limitation in Magix that should be patched . . . .

The issue is not just with Movie Edit Pro, several other video editing programs are also affected by the problem of D3DGear variable framerate video.

There are many other screen capture programs which can capture/export at a constant framerate eg OBS, Screencast-o-Matic.

John EB

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Eric-Barna wrote on 7/23/2018, 8:45 AM

I am working with D3DGear now. They provided with an upgrade that supports constant strreamrate. But new problems occurred where some sounds in the audio were not lined up with the video. Not sure if it is due to the audio bit rate being variable in the source file.

The was the source file,

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Eric PC\Videos\Captures\MWOClient_2018_07_22_172022_0.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size                                : 9.70 GiB
Duration                                 : 33 min 18 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 41.7 Mb/s
Writing application                      : Lavf54.6.100

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L5
Format settings                          : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames               : 4 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 33 min 18 s
Bit rate                                 : 41.5 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 30.000 FPS
Standard                                 : Component
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.668
Stream size                              : 9.66 GiB (100%)
Color range                              : Limited

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 33 min 17 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 151 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 320 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 36.1 MiB (0%)
Default                                  : Yes
Alternate group                          : 1

 

This was the Magix Export

General
Complete name                            : C:\Users\Eric PC\Videos\2018-07-22 Cicada X5.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/avc1)
File size                                : 274 MiB
Duration                                 : 6 min 30 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 5 903 kb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-07-23 03:41:58
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-07-23 03:41:58

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : High@L4
Format settings                          : CABAC / 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames               : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP                     : M=3, N=25
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 6 min 30 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 5 738 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 8 000 kb/s
Width                                    : 1 920 pixels
Height                                   : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 30.000 FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.092
Stream size                              : 267 MiB (97%)
Title                                    : Ì
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-07-23 03:41:58
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-07-23 03:41:58
mdhd_Duration                            : 390000

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec
Format profile                           : LC
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 6 min 29 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 161 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel positions                        : Front: L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 7.48 MiB (3%)
Title                                    : Ì
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2018-07-23 03:41:58
Tagged date                              : UTC 2018-07-23 03:41:58
mdhd_Duration                            : 389000

 

 

johnebaker wrote on 7/23/2018, 10:10 AM

@Eric-Barna

. . . . new problems occurred where some sounds in the audio were not lined up with the video . . . .

Was this in the source file or the exported MEP version and in which direction ie is the audio leading or trailing the action?

If in the source file then likely causes are:

  1. latency in your system
     
  2. the audio bitrate you are recording at, for stereo audio, is unnecessarily high at 320kb/s which is normally the rate to use for surround sound - a lower bitrate of 192 or 256 kb/s may result in better syncing.

The variable bitrate is normal for both audio (and video) and does not affect syncing of audio to video.

If in the exported file you can try applying the Create (new) frame table option to the imported video on the timeline - right click the video to get the option - although this should not be necessary for mp4 files.

The export video audio bitrate also seems odd at 161 kb/s - the default for stereo is 192 kb/s - which export setting are you using and are you customising it?

HTH

John EB

 

Last changed by johnebaker on 7/23/2018, 10:13 AM, changed a total of 2 times.

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Eric-Barna wrote on 7/23/2018, 7:13 PM

I cannot change the 320kb/s per second. It does not allow me that option. It may be due to the fact I am recording gameplay video, which sometimes uses surround sound. I use a headset. As for the 161 kb/s, I used it to try to match the bit rate of 151 KB/s. To solve the issue. Magix did not offer that. I will try the 192 kb/s. In the end I can always use Xbox DVR to create a smaller file that Magix can then use. I just find it strange that Xbox DVR, which I find inferior to Magix as far as cababilities, handles the D3D file with no issue. Also, the source file had no problems with the video and audio syncing. I wonder too if upgrading to a current version of Magix, like 2018 Plus, might help. Thank you for your help.