Need to know before I purchase!

brae wrote on 4/19/2016, 4:13 PM

Hello Magix people, please help! I am about to purchase this program, but I need to be sure that it can create four simultaneous vid feeds at once, like the youtube link I've included here...Can someone please confirm that I can do this with Magix?? Thank you!

 

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brae wrote on 4/19/2016, 4:14 PM

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johnebaker wrote on 4/19/2016, 5:36 PM

Hi

What you want to do is easily achieved in Movie Edit Pro (MEP) in several different ways - in the case of the 4 images arranged as shown in the video clip it is called a collage, there are also Picture in Picture (PIP) effects available.

There are preset collage layouts in MEP or you can manually create your own.

Do make sure you get the Plus or Premium version of MEP - the Basic version does not have all features.

Have you downloaded the trial version and tested it ?  If not I would advise you to do so, also read the installed PDF manual available under Help to understand how to use the program.

There are many tutorials here in the Tutorial section and on Youtube on how to use the program and achieve different effects, layouts etc.

HTH

John EB

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yvon-robert wrote on 4/19/2016, 6:29 PM

Hi,

You need a good computer to run 4 video tracks because each video use one track probably you muted three audio track to avoid syncro problem. Near all video software can do this, use Magix VDL 2016 and export file in format YouTube manually or use the specific function to create a YT file. 

Regards,

YR

browj2 wrote on 4/19/2016, 10:31 PM

@Yvon-Robert,

In this particular case with one person playing 4 instruments, one would need to use the audio from all 4 tracks as each instrument contributes individually to the audio, and use the mixer to adjust each audio track as well as maybe some EQ, etc., all of which MEP does very well. It is important in recording takes like this that the musician(s) use headphones to monitor the track(s) already laid down somewhere, which, I presume Brae is already aware of. The problem then is going to be getting each track in sync and there is a way to do this with the right equipment, by manually trying to sync, having a noise or click at the correct time in each video clip, etc. I would use something like MusicMaker or Samplitude Music Studio to simultaneously record the audio, one track at a time. Then at least the audio tracks would already be synchronized. Then import each track into MEP along with the 4 videos and then sync the corresponding video to the audio track, one at a time. This would result in all 8 tracks being in sync. Finally, I would use the audio recorded onto the computer if it was superior to the camera mic, which would likely be the case.

@brae,

When you say "video feeds" I presume that you mean videos recorded by a camera and stored in the camera, then imported onto the MEP timeline, and not 1 or more cameras feeding into MEP and being recorded by MEP. Is this correct?

I have only tested recording into MEP from my WebCam using the record feature in MEP. The audio and video were way out of sync, so I would use my video camera and MusicMaker as I indicated above. Furthermore, unlike recording audio into MEP, the timeline doesn't play back.

Hope I didn't confuse you too much.

Maybe someone else has tried recording AV directly into MEP successfully and can contribute here.

Below is a screen shot showing only 2 videos side-by-side. I used the PiP presets to set them, the feature to align using audio tracks. You can also see the mixer open on the screen. I did this quickly for this demonstration. I used 2 cameras and the sound recorded by the cameras. I didn't turn one off and you don't hear any sync problems in this particular case. Not optimal, but you get the point. I could have made up 2 other recording and included them as PiP - 4 on the screen as you mentioned.

Or for better quality.

Here is the quick and dirty result with no adjustments to image or audio. Normally, this would be a multi-cam video with only one image, so you wouldn't see the shaky pan that I did.

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yvon-robert wrote on 4/20/2016, 9:15 AM

Hi,

Personally I think the problem is not the software side but this project requires a very good computer with an i7 SSD hard disk and at least 32 gig of RAM. Magix deluxe version software with multiple cameras is capble to easily produce this kind of video. The sound mixer is an indispensable asset ti balance audio tracks.

Regards,

YR

browj2 wrote on 5/10/2016, 10:22 AM

@Yvon-Robert,

I see that this OP has not even bothered to log in. We wasted our time. Makes me wonder why we even bother.

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polymorph wrote on 11/16/2016, 7:55 AM

@Yvon-Robert,

I see that this OP has not even bothered to log in. We wasted our time. Makes me wonder why we even bother.

I disagree, as other people will find the answers useful.

kalle-heiman wrote on 4/18/2017, 5:17 AM

MEP:s multi track editing has tool to synchronize four tracks, but I think it does not work very well if you don't have exact noise click. I've found a way that works: First sync material from camera 2 to 1, then camera 3 to 1 and 4 to 1. That works but it takes little more time.

browj2 wrote on 4/18/2017, 9:28 AM

@kalle-heiman

Hi,

This thread is now a year old and the OP has not returned with any more information or questions, so presumably he has gone elsewhere.

The particular problem in this case is that the 4 videos are all recorded separately with the same person playing instruments in all 4 videos, so there is no way to use the audio sync feature in MEP. It would have to be done manually, one camera A/V track with the second, then the third, fourth, as you suggest.

I can think of a few ways to do this.

One way would be to record the audio from the first track during each session on to one channel, say the right one, and record the new material onto channel 2, the left one. Then it should be possible to use the audio sync feature by turning off channel 2 on track 2 and syncing with the audio of the first camera. Then do this with each camera. The first recording would have to be put on the timeline so that the musician could monitor it during the second recording, third and fourth.

During recording, one would, of course, be playing back the audio through headphones that was recorded by the first camera in order to play along with it, so it could be recorded onto one channel. The player would then monitor track 2 and play along with it, but still try to record track 1 onto channel 1 of the third recording, then the fourth. The camera would have to allow L&R audio inputs.

I can't see using MEP to record the video directly. Firstly, I have not been successful in recording from my webcam into MEP or VPX with some latency. Even if that could be eliminated, there is no playback during recording of audio and video (this only works when recording audio), so one would not be able to monitor the first recording while recording the A/V for the second; I tried with VPX.

Probably the best way would be to get the first camera recording (R1) into MEP (tracks 1 and 2) and then record the audio (A2) for the second recording (R2) directly into MEP on track 3 whilst monitoring both A/V, and at the same time record A/V with a camera. Then do the same with the other 2 recordings (A3 and A4) and put them onto tracks 6 and 9. Then transfer the camera recordings R2 onto tracks 4 and 5, R3 onto 7 and 8, R4 onto 10 and 11 and then sync the audio of the respective tracks (R2 with A2, R3 with A3, R4 with A4). The audio recordings A2, A3 and A4 would already be in sync with track 2, as the musician played along with the music of the first recording each time. Split the screen into 4. Finally, mix appropriately the best audio recordings and turn off the others, so there would be 4 audio tracks mixed.

I did a test but not of the syncing. I recorded video into MEP, then made 3 audio recordings into MEP each time while monitoring, with no problems. Then, for illustration, I superimposed three A/V recordings, PIP. See below.

Anyone with another idea?

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