New fact regarding DVDs, Win10, VPX

gmlotkow wrote on 6/25/2018, 6:52 AM

At the beginning of this year, I built a PC as a recommendation from a forum member, and it turned out to be the best editing machine ever. Skip the graphic cards. See the stats in my signature. Since, I've had issues with others not being able to play DVDs that I created for them. My procedure was as follows:

Render the video (1-1.5 hours worth) to a VIDEO_TS folder
Use WIN10 file manager to burn VIDEO_TS folder to DVD. Make that my master disc, then use an DVD burning array to make 7 copies at one time.

This procedure would work for me, and I would test it on my PC using VCL (WIN10 has no media center), and two other DVD players. I would make anywhere between 20-50 discs, and distribute them to the community. There was always someone, or more out there who stated the disc would not play. I could not figure it out. I thought it may have been the render settings within VPX, maybe something with the quality settings. Then I remembered on my earlier PC came with a bundled package and a utility to burn the VIDEO_TS folder to DVD.

Last week I purchased CyberLink Power2Go 12.0, and use that utility to burn the VIDEO_TS folder to a DVD, and my problems went away. Must be something WIN10 does not do, but Power2Go does it right.

By the way, I'm still holding back on the recent update with patches.

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johnebaker wrote on 6/25/2018, 7:39 AM

Hi Greg

. . . . Use WIN10 file manager to burn VIDEO_TS folder to DVD . . . . Must be something WIN10 does not do, but Power2Go does it right. . . .

AFAIK Windows 10 File Manager only burns files as a data disc as opposed to a proper DVD- see next paragraph - this would be supported by the fact that Power2Go is doing the job correctly.

Windows 10 File Manger can burn an ISO file (disc image) created by using VPX, however, IMHO, you are better off using a proper disc burning program ie VPX burning capabilities or Power2Go.

Personally I use VPX to burn the disc to rewriteable DVD or BD as required, check this out and then when everything is OK - I usually find something needs tweaking when viewed on the 'big screen' - then I would duplicate this to permanent disc using Nero.

So far the latest version is not causing issues for me, however I do understand the reasons why you are holding back on them.

HTH

John EB

Scenestealer wrote on 6/25/2018, 4:48 PM

I would test it on my PC using VCL (WIN10 has no media center)

Do you mean Win 10 can not play an MPEG2 or .VOB (DVD File) via Windows media player? This is because Microsoft took the MPEG2 codec out of Win10, but you can now download the codec for free from Microsoft.

Peter

gmlotkow wrote on 6/25/2018, 7:52 PM

Stealer- Is that something new, did it roll out in a recent update? I see it in my apps, "Movies & TV", it sees the AUDIO_TS & Audio TS, double clicking them, nothing happens. No files show in the directory using it.

But with VLC player, and using my windows explorer, I see everything in those folders, and it plays. So windows Movies & TV must not recognize those extensions.

Scenestealer wrote on 6/26/2018, 6:38 AM

No not new but it became available sometime after Win 10 came out. May have been public pressure.

VLC and what have you, have their own codecs built in that are not made available to other software so Windows players need to have their own codecs installed - in this case an MPEG2 codec which needed to be purchased prior to MS making it a free download retrospectively, a year or so ago. Just search it on MS's download site.

gmlotkow wrote on 6/26/2018, 8:37 AM

I did google "Microsoft MPEG@ codec", it led me to the Microsoft store, then to apps, it asked if I wanted to download it, but then stated it was already installed....

johnebaker wrote on 6/26/2018, 10:40 AM

Hi Greg

WMP cannot play VOBs because it does not recognise the file .VOB extension, however if you change the file extension to .MPG it will play them.

This kind of defeats the object of testing the DVD as it also does not recognise the menu system. 😭

VLC is the best option or an alternative player that will recognise DVD format files and menus

HTH

John EB

gmlotkow wrote on 6/26/2018, 11:09 AM

Screw the WMP then!

Former user wrote on 7/15/2018, 11:20 PM

Hi Greg

. . . . Use WIN10 file manager to burn VIDEO_TS folder to DVD . . . . Must be something WIN10 does not do, but Power2Go does it right. . . .

AFAIK Windows 10 File Manager only burns files as a data disc as opposed to a proper DVD- see next paragraph - this would be supported by the fact that Power2Go is doing the job correctly.

Windows 10 File Manger can burn an ISO file (disc image) created by using VPX, however, IMHO, you are better off using a proper disc burning program ie VPX burning capabilities or Power2Go.

Personally I use VPX to burn the disc to rewriteable DVD or BD as required, check this out and then when everything is OK - I usually find something needs tweaking when viewed on the 'big screen' - then I would duplicate this to permanent disc using Nero.

So far the latest version is not causing issues for me, however I do understand the reasons why you are holding back on them.

HTH

John EB

If you master a DVD and save it to an Image file (with Video Pro X, Vegas DVD Architect, etc.), then Windows will burn the disk to the DVD, and it will work properly.

Windows will not master a DVD for you simply by burning a folder to a DVD disk. That's no different than burning your Documents folder to a DVD disk. It's not a DVD mastering application. It's only meant to burn data disks, or create DVDs from disk image files.