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browj2 wrote on 10/9/2016, 4:00 AM

Hi Kami,

V4 does not come with VPX8 either. I seem to recall asking Magix about this and the answer was that the programmers might include it later. I am far from home so I can't check if V4 shows up due to being already installed in the previous version. I installed VPX8 on my new Surface Pro 4 before leaving and I don't have any previous versions loaded so I am missing many plugins that show up on my home computer. Annoying that. 

In your case, do you have V4 from MEP2016 Premium. Does it show up in the new MEP Premium (2017)?

We have not received any new features yet under this new 365 update system. I am hoping that Magix will soon release an update for VPX with the new features that are in the new MEP. I decided not to upgrade MEP anymore as I have VPX and the new features should show up much quicker than before.

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johnebaker wrote on 10/9/2016, 4:25 AM

Hi Kami

The Prodad Mercalli 4 is only available in the Premium version of the new MEP.

If you have the Premium version did you install the Additional programs?

The name change was announced with the release of the new version - often referred to as MEP 2017 or more rarely MEP 365 - and change in licence type.  There will be no new version releases - see this article for more information.

John EB

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browj2 wrote on 10/9/2016, 4:42 AM

@John EB,

I see no sign of V4 in the Magix.com publicity for either MEP or VPX. Check the downloaded files to see if there is one for V4. I didn't see one for VPX, I don't think.

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johnebaker wrote on 10/9/2016, 7:52 AM

Hi

@ John CB

Here it is in my MEP 2017 (not unlocked) and VPX (unlocked) also see p18 in the MEP manual.

 

 

Whether these have been picked up from MEP 2016 I do not know!

HTH

John EB

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

browj2 wrote on 10/9/2016, 10:58 AM

Hi John EB,

The Intermittent (internet) is working in my hotel room finally, probably for a little while. I just checked the order confirmations and there was no sign of V4 mentioned for VPX8, but there was a serial number that came with 2016 Premium. I also checked the downloads in VPX8 and there is no proDAD anything. But I do have V2 in the menu. So we may have obtained V4 with a previous version and it still works.

Just checked VPX7 and V4 was included along with more NewBlue things.

I may have to install some older products just to get the add-ons, something that I don't want to do on my Surface Pro 4 due to limited disk space.

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Kami_1 wrote on 10/9/2016, 12:09 PM

Hi Browj2.  After reading about the 2017 upgrade, and having no use for the two new plug-ins, and seeing no other new features in any of the 2017 versions, I'm not planning on upgrading.  I was hoping for some fixes in the Title window (esp. the text size vertical slidebar which I find very difficult to control), but I didn't read anything on the Magix webpage.

What's Surface Pro and 365?

Kami

Kami_1 wrote on 10/9/2016, 12:16 PM

Hi John,

I saw only Mercalli 2 listed in the features of the new MEP Premium. 

I wonder how this forum going to handle "No more version release names and numbers,"   since readers here use different versions.      

(It's okay now, but after a year or so I can see that being problematic here.)

Kami

 

browj2 wrote on 10/9/2016, 1:28 PM

 

Hi Browj2.  After reading about the 2017 upgrade, and having no use for the two new plug-ins, and seeing no other new features in any of the 2017 versions, I'm not planning on upgrading.  I was hoping for some fixes in the Title window (esp. the text size vertical slidebar which I find very difficult to control), but I didn't read anything on the Magix webpage.

What's Surface Pro and 365?

Kami

Hi Kami,

I already have the full version of Vasco da Gama, so I don’t need another one. I also have the New Blue Titler Exprees from a previous version, I presume that it's the same, so this would be redundant for me.

Surface Pros are notebook computers made by Microsoft. You can handwrite on it and use it like a tablet. Comes with Windows 10. I wanted something powerful and small for traveling.

365 - read all about it in this thread

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emmrecs wrote on 10/9/2016, 2:15 PM

@John EB, browj2 and Kami 1,

Mercalli version 4 came for me as a (free) add-on when I bought VPX 8/365.  I never had VPX 6 or 7 (because my OS was still 32 bit), or any version of  MEP since MX.  In fact I've just checked the invoice/email from when I bought VPX 8 and it's definitely listed there, with its serial number.  So, whether it had been previously offered with an earlier version I would doubt; after all, why offer it as a "bonus" for upgrading to VPX 8 if it had already been available with an earlier version?

Jeff

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johnebaker wrote on 10/9/2016, 3:12 PM

Hi

@ Kami

. . . . I wonder how this forum going to handle "No more version release names and numbers," . . . .

The program name will not change however the software version number will continue to change as patches are applied to the program. 

As is already done in the forum we will refer to the patch version number to distinguish which 'level' of program users are at.

@ Jeff - re Mercalli 4 - thanks for confirming what I thought but was not quite so sure about - not old age     just so much going on getting ready for our holiday..

John EB

 

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Kami_1 wrote on 10/10/2016, 10:55 AM

Thanks Browj and John.  I read thru the other forum.  Both of you and others have asked very qood questions.  But I now understand the subscription service.  Magix reference "new update guarantee" doesn't explain at all.

I would definitely wait till the questions are addressed, e.g., what happens when you get a new computer .... OR if your computer crashes and you have to re-install the OS and all the software! 

I also understand now about using the version numbers on this forum.

Kami

Scenestealer wrote on 10/10/2016, 4:24 PM

Hi

Magix told me a while back that Prodad have made the V4 and Cmos plugins specific to a Magix version ie a plug-in might still be picked up by another host program, but the serial number won't be accepted.

They came with their own serials for MEP2016 and VPX7 but VPX8 did not come with or require a new serial to work on my machine.

Mercalli V2 has been a "standard" feature of MEP/VPX since MEP2016/ VPX7.

Peter

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browj2 wrote on 10/11/2016, 2:36 PM

Hi,

I just checked back, double-checked, my VPX8 confirmation email from Magix. It is sparse. All that is there is the VPX download link and serial number, and the pdf file link, nothing else. I checked to the end.

@Peter,

I will need to take this up with Magix if there is supposed to be more in the email than VPX. You have Mercalli V4 and serial number. Anything else?

I managed to get the X off of the NewBlue effects by logging in to the NewBlue popup. Was there anything in the email about NewBlue?

Since I am far from home, I can't access what is on my home computer to see what works in VPX8 and what doesn't.

Regards,

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VideoPro X(16); Movie Studio 2025 Platinum; Music Maker 2025 Premium Edition; Samplitude Pro X8 Suite; see About me for more.

Desktop System - Windows 10 Pro 22H2; MB ROG STRIX B560-A Gaming WiFi; Graphics Card Zotac Gaming NVIDIA GeForce RTX-3060, PS; Power supply EVGA 750W; Intel Core i7-10700K @ 3.80GHz (UHD Graphics 630); RAM 32 GB; OS on Kingston SSD 1TB; secondary WD 2TB; others 1.5TB, 3TB, 500GB, 4TB, 5TB, 6TB, 8TB, 12TB, 14TB; three monitors - HP 25" main, LG 4K 27" second, HP 27" third; Casio WK-225 piano keyboard; M-Audio M-Track USB mixer.

Notebook - Microsoft Surface Pro 4, i5-6300U, 8 GB RAM, 256 SSD, W10 Pro 20H2.

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Scenestealer wrote on 10/11/2016, 4:23 PM

Sorry John, I just corrected a typo in my reply - VPX8 did NOT require separate serials to work with the Prodad products.

Peter

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jsypuffin wrote on 11/3/2016, 12:43 PM

Hi,

I've just "upgraded" from Movie Edit Pro V16 to Movie Edit Pro 17 and whilst the Prodad Mercalli V4 and Cmos Fixr are under the effects tab they needed activation.

I naively thought that the activation code from V16 would work, but no. The official answer from Magix was -

The licences of the CMOS Fixr and Mercalli V4 only cover programs which already come with Mercalli V4.

Every year we offer different third party patents.
These are currently:
Video deluxe Premium: Vasco da Gama 9 Essential & NewBlue Titler Pro Express
Video Pro X: NewBlue Looks

We understand that the needs of each of our customers are different and we strive our best to help.
Included with the software is ProDAD Mercalli V2, along with the above mentioned plugins.

The only way to solve the problem was to buy a licence from ProDad for the plugin, which is what I have done. They are offering 20% off at the moment but I don't know for how long.

The only positive thing to come out of this, I hope, is that my activation should work with future versions of Movie Edit Pro and Mercalli 4 is far superior to Mercalli 2!

Roger..

browj2 wrote on 11/3/2016, 7:35 PM

Hi,

I'm not sure that I follow you. First, I assume that you are talking about 2016 and 2017, not 16 and 17, but please use the correct title as there was a version 17 and it is old. Also, which flavour - basic, Plus or Premium?

If you purchased 2016 Premium and activate proDAD Mercalli V4, it should still show up under MEP 2017, as far as I know. I have VPX7 which came with V4 and VPX8 which did not (some users got it, but I did not - I have VPX8 installed on a new machine and there is no Mercalli V4, only V2). Everything that I had installed from previous versions showed up in VPX8, including Mercalli V4.

Did you uninstall 2016 Premium (assuming that you had it)?

Did you activate Mercalli V4 in 2016 Premium?

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Scenestealer wrote on 11/4/2016, 3:52 PM

From my reply in this thread, a few posts down;-

Magix told me a while back that Prodad have made the V4 and Cmos plugins specific to a Magix version ie a plug-in might still be picked up by another host program, but the serial number won't be accepted.

This appears to still be the case as I have just installed MEP2017 and whilst V4 is available and works, it is watermarked and it would require a new serial number to remove that.

Roger

The only positive thing to come out of this, I hope, is that my activation should work with future versions of Movie Edit Pro and Mercalli 4 is far superior to Mercalli 2!

The interesting thing here is that there are no longer going to be new versions of MEP/VPX with the advent of the 365 model, so everything you now get as additional content should keep going forever.........hmmm!

Peter

 

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