New Video Pro X user having issues

Daniel-Mercado wrote on 9/3/2020, 4:27 PM

Hello.

I tried exporting 3 clips of gameplay videos that are at 1440p 60fps. It's my first time using video pro x so I tried leaving everything how with what it set the project at when I imported the clips. The project is around 27 mins.

When I go to export the video it says it would take 2 hours to export the project. I honestly don't know what I did wrong. I'm on an i9 9900KF, 32gb Ram, and a 2070 super.

Note: I installed movie studio platinum and I did the exact same thing. Imported the clips organized and cut where I needed. Added fade in and outs and exported. Movie studio 16 took 18 minutes to export.

 

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Scenestealer wrote on 9/3/2020, 6:53 PM

@Daniel-Mercado

Hi and welcome to the forum.

Have you tried letting the export run to see how long it does take to complete? I presume you looked at the export mix down window in the first few minutes of encoding - often this can show a much bigger time estimate than what it eventually takes as it gets a "feel" for the complexity of the timeline and of the actual rate of encoding. The time to completion can reduce quite quickly a little way into the encode.

Otherwise - can you see that "hardware encoding" is active in the mix down window?

Peter

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CubeAce wrote on 9/5/2020, 3:16 AM

@Daniel-Mercado

Hi Daniel.

Looking at your processor specs (I was thrown off by the F after the K) it seems it does not have an Intel GPU That VPX heavily relies on for hardware acceleration when exporting most file types. Even with the use of your 2070 super, exports are going to be slower than with a system that has an appropriate Intel GPU.

Ray.

 

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Daniel-Mercado wrote on 9/9/2020, 3:47 PM

Yeah, I left for around 10 minutes and it did not change the export time. I tried one just with crossfades and some cuts and it took 1 minute. @Scenestealer I'm still not sure what caused it then.

@CubeAce what should I do then? Should I still stay with Video pro X or go with Movie Studio 16. I currently have both. I want to edit the videos I'll be uploading to TikTok like the image below.

Which program should I use? I learned how to use Premiere pro and after effects but I can't afford them anymore.

CubeAce wrote on 9/9/2020, 4:13 PM

@Daniel-Mercado

Hi Daniel.

Have you tried exporting files as HEVC where your nvidia GPU would be able to kick in with Hardware acceleration?

Alternatively try unticking these two boxes and making the processor do all the work? Sometimes that improves things for other file format exports.

To be truthful though I have both Intel and nvidia GPUs active and a 4K video at 50fps takes just under twice the complete time length of a given video to encode, slightly shorter if there is no additional processing to do short of cross-fades. The difference in time taken between the 'Best' and 'Balanced' settings is negligible. Your nvidia card is more powerful than mine so it is worth trying the HEVC export.

I can't really advise on the choice of editor for you as I don't have a Vegas product to compare to.

Ray.

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

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Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

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Scenestealer wrote on 9/9/2020, 5:21 PM

@CubeAce @Daniel-Mercado

The difference in time taken between the 'Best' and 'Balanced' settings is negligible.

My experience is a little different on that Ray - depending on the complexity (or simplicity even!) of the timeline, with HWA it can be up to 40% slower on Best or Better, whilst Balanced and Good seem about the same.

BTW Daniel - which version of VPX are you using?

Peter

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Daniel-Mercado wrote on 9/11/2020, 5:02 PM

@CubeAce I think I'm using mpeg4 since that one is compatible with youtube and tiktok. And yeah I have both boxes checked. But I'll try using that one to see how it will go.

@CubeAce I'm using VPX versiopn 17.0.3.63

johnebaker wrote on 9/12/2020, 6:59 AM

@Daniel-Mercado

Hi

. . . . VPX versiopn 17.0.3.63 . . . .

You are missing a patch - the last I had was 17.0.3.68, try updating to the last patch available - Help, Update online - however that will not fix the encoding times which are going to be slower for the reasons @CubeAce gave - ie the i9-9900KF does not have an integrated GPU for hardware acceleration when exporting most file types and the RTX will only be used for HEVC export which TikTok does not support.

There are other potential issues with TikTok, from what data I can find on their video requirements.

  1. the maximum file size appears to be limited to 500 MB which is roughly equivalent to 4 to 5 mins run time for 1920 x 1080 mp4 video.
     
  2. The TikTok video dimensions should be 1080×1920 (portrait) - although they say they support landscape it is not clear if this is adjusted or cropped - and may mean your video does not look like what you uploaded or is shrunk to fit in the portrait format as shown below

John EB

 

 

 

 

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Daniel-Mercado wrote on 9/12/2020, 7:57 AM

My luck with video pro x just keeps on going down the drain. I tried starting a new project. The dimensions were already setup portrait for tiktok. I imported an mkv file under a gb and video pro x is stuck loading. I can't click anything on it.

btw @johnebaker I tried updating with help < Updated online but it never opened anything.

CubeAce wrote on 9/12/2020, 11:45 AM

@Daniel-Mercado

Hi Daniel.

If the file is stuck on importing how much spare drive space do you have on your C: drive?

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."