@weedavy6969

Hi

To add to @CubeAce comment:

The audio offset, as Ray has said, will be one frame , if your source video is 25 fps then the worst case is an offset of 1/25 sec (40 ms).

If the timing offset is critical, you may want to consider moving up to Video Pro X which does not have the lock to frame restriction.

John EB

Thanks Guys! I opted to downloaded the Free trial version of Magix Pro X .. Wow ..£149 upgrade price to nudge a clip a millisecond back seems a bit excessive....but if it works I might consider it on payday! ! Every couple of years I do upgrade but NEVER have I been able to use any of the extra amazing content (New Blue something..etc ...etc..!!??) whatever that is, that seem to come along with every Magix download! I've spent night's downloading all that 'extra' content ..but never seem to find where it's downloaded all the extra content too!!!! or how to get it to work in the actual program! Every upgrade seems to leave me with the same looking Magix program! Defo something I'm doing wrong I know..but hey! It's a fab program anyway and in the main, easy to use! Also ..just noticed that Magix Pro X was around in 2016! Just watched a tutorial on Youtube!

Is this the latest Magix upgrade then?? Davy x x

@weedavy6969

Hi Davy.

There is a lot more to it than just being able to move audio more freely and can subsequently be a steeper learning curve to get used to. I'm surprised you can't get an audio sync to picture within MEP though as 1/24s is quite tight timing for the slowest frame rate and can only improve with higher frame rates. This is difficult to decide though as you have not stated what you are syncing to what.

You also get a commercial use licence on the standard supplied extras with VPX. The latest version is 17.0.3.68 released not that long ago.

Do check your computer specs before upgrading though here. As it could be a bit more demanding on your system.There will be some videos around that area as well to look at.

Third party effects are separate to the store content and should be explained in the emails you get from MAGIX when you pay for the program. Even for MEP, the process is the same and each third party 'pack' has to be registered separately and accounts with the various companies have to be set up and activated.

The area you can start the downloads should be the same in both programs.

I have removed the registrations from my example in the current Movie Edit Pro Premium.

Ray.

@weedavy6969, @CubeAce

Hi

. . . . The latest version is 17.0.3.68 . . . .

This is VPX 11 - the latest version is VPX 12 18.0.1.82.

weedavy - your computer spec is missing the graphics card and contains a lot of information that is not needed, ie everything after the line:

Processor    AMD Ryzen 5 2600 Six-Core Processor, 3400 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s)

could you correct this please - see my signature for how mine is set out.

Thanks

John EB
Forum Moderator

Hi Guys! You are the best! Honestly...thanks so much for all the advice!

I've updated my signature (if anything else is missing please let me know John!)

Ok..Here's my project...

Ok ..I'm a Professional Musician in a BBC Orchestra working on a project for a good friend of mine who plays the Tuba!

In lockdown, he's recorded this duet with a fantastic colleague from America.

He asked me to put their 2 video's together for a Facebook post, to give his book of duets some coverage!

Having rendered the video and posted on Youtube, he was concerned that the Video is just a fraction behind the sound. (Hence the question about moving audio just a fraction of a second)

They are both absolute professionals! and if they say the video is a fraction behind the sound..then I need to work a way to nudge it back an ever so small amount!

Here is the link to the Youtube video

Hope all is starting to become clearer as to why I posted the original question!!!!

Davy x

@weedavy6969

That latest post certainly makes everything much clearer! I'm a retired Music Teacher so, yes, I do see points in the video where "sound" precedes "vision"!

I'm not entirely sure whether it is the case for you that a separate audio recording exists, along with the camera video? I'm guessing it does and it is this recording you are needing to align to the video? I've just been doing a similar sort of project for a friend and her husband who perform Medieval and Renaissance music together. They were due to perform later this year at a Medieval Music Festival, which has had to be cancelled, but all the performers have been invited to submit a video of themselves performing. Clearly, they were in one room, so one camera (whose sound was pretty awful) and a separate pretty good quality audio recording. Even in that "simple" scenario there were points where the "good" audio was slightly out-of-sync with that from the camera.

My solution, and one I have previously mentioned in the forum, is to use software from Red Giant called PluralEyes. I have owned this for a number of years (during which its price has increased, markedly) and the current latest, version 4, is really "not fit for purpose" - it throws error messages as soon as you add a video or audio track to its file bin. (I have had several email conversations with its support personnel to point out my displeasure; even a very recent update has not resolved the problem.) Thankfully, the older version 3.5, does still work very well and can be downloaded and installed.

Sorry, I digressed rather there! Anyway, how it works: you insert the video (in your case it could easily be an exported version, e.g. .mp4 of the "duet", or one of the original "single camera" tracks) along with the original audio recording. You press a button marked "Synchronize" and PluralEyes visually lines up the audio and video recordings. In fact, thinking about it, you could insert both videos and the audio. For use in MEP or VPX you then press "Export", choose the option for "new audio file" (or both audio and video if you wish) and PE will create a "version" of the "good" audio recording which is completely in sync with the camera video. No change is ever made to the original files; what is exported is always a synchronized "copy".

If you need any more information/advice, post back or PM me. I'd also be happy to actually have a go at creating the "synchronized" files for you if that would be helpful!

HTH

Jeff
Forum Moderator

Hi Jeff! OMG! Again! Thanks SO SO much for the reply! This forum is amazing! If you would like to try to synchronize the files then ..I'd be honestly so thankful! and I'm sure the Tuba Players would appreciate it too! I only edit videos as a hobby! Jezz..if someone was PAYING me to actually do this! Unthinkable! What a stressful job! Dave - Glasgow xx

@emmrecs @johnebaker @weedavy6969

Hi Davy.

To me it looks as if the audio is out of sync on both takes to their respective videos.

Did you just put the two clips side by side and then try to align the audio?

Did one performer watch a video of the other to play alongside of?

I would look at each track individually first and sort out the audio to video sync of each first and then try to align the two clips.

Ray.

[Edit]

I too would be up for a challenge. I'm happy about getting the video audio to sync to each clip but less sure about the syncing between the two clips as I'm not familiar with that piece of music. Will have to watch yours a few times I guess.

@weedavy6969

I'm happy to at least have a go!

My wife and I have our two youngest grandchildren staying with us for a few days so we're taking them to the seaside tomorrow. I will hope to PM you tomorrow evening to suggest how we might proceed with this.

Jeff

Grrrr!!! ...before I even started to edit the video, the guys had prerecorded a pro AUDIO recording for the MAIN AUDIO track to make sure it in itself was perfect!

They then did a VIDEO recording each separately of them both (kinda miming (just for the video) but with a click track)

By the time I started to edit..I only had ONE main Stereo Audio track of them BOTH playing!

Yup I agree..maybe to get things perfect..I'd need both PERFECT TAKES and basically start again and remix things myself!

Davy xx