Hi John,

Appreciate that fast reply.

Interesting. I'm even now getting another quirk: for the last object (whether video or image) the right arrow is still accessible (light grey).

I'll reboot later and re-test. Tend to avoid resetting unless desperate, as so many things then to restore!

(Yes, I still use 'legacy' shortcuts.)

Here's an example of a video object causing this behaviour. (14 MB .mov clip.)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/68eyyy01gsjm5t6/QuirkExample.mov?dl=0

(I added a modest zoom in to it.)

Hi Terry

No problem with the video incorporated into a mix of mine.

I did note that the MOV file has a variable frame rate and the audio sample rate is 44.1kHz.

HTH

John EB

Thanks John. Very puzzling. I get the issue (both arrows inactive when they should be active) in both MEP 2016 and MEP '2017'. And in a fresh project with a new mix: 3 images and a different MOV (from same iPhone 6S+).

I've uploaded that project and its media, total 38 MB, to Quirk-NextObject.zip on Dropbox, if you'd be kind enough to try it please.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qruya0fq81069n9/Quirk-NextObject.zip?dl=0

Oh, also meant to ask about the implications of "...variable frame rate and the audio sample rate is 44.1kHz" please?

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Hi Terry

Success ! - if you can call it that - I can reproduce this not just with your video and images but any video and omages under these conditions

1. there is only one video between at least two images
   and
2. the video is selected first

Select an image first or add a second video clip between the images - with 2 videos between images it does not matter which video you select first - it works fine .

Looks like a bug to me.

HTH

John EB

Hi John,

Thanks, well done! I agree, it's a small bug. I've reported with ticketed email.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Hi,

I can go back to bed now; I've learned one new thing today. I noticed the arrows before and never used them or even looked to see what they could do.

I tried this in VPX and at first I could not reproduce the problem using my clips, but I could with Terry's clip. I played around with this a bit more. If I add another video clip followed by another photo at the end of the timeline, when I select one of the video clips, the arrow turns on - but only one way. If I select the first video clip, the left arrow is off, the second is on. If I select the last video clip, the right arrow is off, the left is on. See the images below.

I added a third video clip and a photo to the end. Selecting the first or last video clip gave me the same as above. Selecting the second video turned on both arrows.

In all cases where an arrow is on, clicking on it causes the arrows to light up correctly unless or until a single video clip is selected with the mouse.

So, it seems that in the first instance, MEP and VPX both consider only the video clips to the left and right as valid. If there is only 1 video clip, then the program considers that there are no other clips so the arrows stay off. Definitely a bug.

In playing around, I found another bug in VPX and it may be in MEP as well.

To insert from the Media Pool at the location of the playback marker, I use the shortcut 2 - insert (or the button). If I select a photo and press 2, the photo is inserted correctly. But, if I select a video clip and press on 2, the video is inserted but so is a gap after it of equal length. This is irrespective of the mouse mode.

Hi John,

Thanks for the feedback. Can't say I'm confident of seeing either 'my' bug or yours getting fixed any time soon, but there's some satisfaction in having identified them.

Hi John CB

. . . . But, if I select a video clip and press on 2, the video is inserted but so is a gap after it of equal length. This is irrespective of the mouse mode. . . . .

No issue in VPX or MEP Premium here- works as it should - no gap.

Mouse mode has no function when using the short cut 2 key, it is always Insert track mode and the object will always be inserted on track 1 at the timeline cursor position, it will also automatically split an object if necessary.

John EB

Hi John EB,

Thanks for taking a look. But, it's not on the first insert, but on subsequent inserts that this happens. Here is the video.

I just mentioned the irrespective part in case someone thought that it had an influence on the insert process. It doesn't. 2 = single-track ripple insert, 3 = multi-track ripple insert. Doing 3 works fine, but 2 does not after the first insert. Interestingly, doing a Ctrl+Del on the offending clip removes it and the gap.

Hi John CB

Still no problem here following your procedure.

Here is a quick and dirty video of it working using VPX (no commentary)

John EB