Picture length not changed in current project in MEP 2018

clement5 wrote on 2/27/2018, 12:55 PM

I changed the "Picture Length" from 7 to 20 in the Program Settings>Video/Audio but when I imported a set of pictures, they were still 7 s in length on the timeline. I could get imports to work only by exiting MEP and restarting it. I think it used to work properly in older versions of MEP. Perhaps ALL other settings options should be checked to see if they have an immediate effect.

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emmrecs wrote on 2/27/2018, 2:14 PM

Assuming you clicked on "OK" when you made the change to the picture length setting...?

I've just tested this on my machine, running MEP 17.0.2.166, updated this morning, changed the picture length to 20 seconds in the Program Settings screen, dropped an image on to the timeline and it immediately filled 20 seconds! So, for me at least, the update does NOT show the "error" you are experiencing.

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browj2 wrote on 2/27/2018, 2:30 PM

Hi,

MEP 17.0.2.166 Actually, it's more strange than that. I changed to 20s and got 20s the first time. Just to be sure, I closed the program and restarted MEP, new project. Imports of my images were all 20s. Changed to 5s, and now got 20s, then 5s. I did several changes, 5, 10, and 20s and the results were all over the place. To test this, you have to do several trials with different lengths, and sometimes import more than one before the change takes place. Or, zooming out on the timeline may also have an impact. With 10s set, nothing on the timeline, using the down arrow on an image in the media pool, I got 20s, 20s, 10s, I have not seen this before. I will also check in VPX.

Looks like a bug to me.

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clement5 wrote on 2/27/2018, 2:57 PM

Thank you. Actually I was importing a set of pictures when I encountered it. We in Houston are used to bugs, BIG BUGS, but we have efficient exterminators to keep them out of our houses. Does Magix have a good exterminator?? I am very good at finding obscure bugs in software. I have even repaired some in a couple of Virtuatdub plugins.

browj2 wrote on 2/27/2018, 3:04 PM

@emmrecs

Hi Jeff,

It worked fine for me the first time too, then went bonkers when I tried changing the settings more than once. I tried both hitting Enter after changing the parameter and Ok; same results. I even tried importing an object twice (already on the timeline) but with a shorter import duration; it took the length of the one already imported. I didn't try that out again, as it was now acting like all of the others.

Not so in VPX; works fine either way.

This will require a video to explain the problem to Magix.

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browj2 wrote on 2/27/2018, 3:41 PM

Here is the video. Pay particular attention to the last part when I clear the timeline and import with the setting at 10s. I get 10s, 10, 5, 5, 20, if I recall correctly, with no changes being made to the 10s setting.

John CB

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johnebaker wrote on 2/27/2018, 4:38 PM

Hi

I too get this odd behaviour.

However it would appear, and I have tested this 6 times, each a new project, and 3 - 5 images per length setting, that if you move the timeline cursor to the end after each change of import image length obeys the import setting correctly.

Can anyone else replicate this?

I have also tested in MEP 2015 and it behaves correctly so far.

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clement5 wrote on 2/27/2018, 5:55 PM

Yes, it works OK in MEP 2014, 2015.

terrypin wrote on 2/28/2018, 4:22 AM

Hi John,

I have the same problem in 'MEP 2016', MEPP 15.0.0.114 (UDP3). (I recall reporting a similar bug years ago but can't find it after much searching.)

But your work-around doesn't stop it consistently for me, if I've implemented it correctly. For example, with a setting of 4s the first import was correct. The End key took the cursor to 4 s. The second import was correct. The cursor remained at 4s, the end of the timeline. The next import was wrong, at 5s.

I also tried importing multple images. Here's my first set of results:

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johnebaker wrote on 2/28/2018, 7:06 AM

Hi

@browj2 @terrypin

Here is a quick video of the 'if you move the timeline cursor to the end after each change of import image length obeys the import setting correctly' - MEP 17.0.2.166

I have tried this 4 times this morning (messed up the recording 3 times 😬) and on each occasion, no matter which order I changed the size to, pressing the End key to move the timeline cursor to the end of the last inserted image after change the import length, it worked - that makes a total of 10 tests.

Murphy's Law will dictate that the issue will eventually come and bite me 😭

@terrypin

Just looked out the window before posting - we have a snow blizzard - visibilty is about 25 - 30 metres.

HTH

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browj2 wrote on 2/28/2018, 10:58 AM

Hi,

I tried again this morning. I deleted the photos from the timeline, changed the default length from 10 to 4s. Imported from the media pool, 10s, 10s, 4. I changed the length to something else, and imported 3 different length clips.

@johnebaker

Surely you're not in England! We're on Isle-aux-Coudres for the week. Below is the view at the wharf before taking the ferry. There was a snow squall along the way and we managed to get ahead of it, but it caught up whilst waiting for the ferry. The second is the view we have from the chalet. No blizzard here, just winter - and strong winds coming straight towards the chalet.

I replaced the video in my previous post. Thanks,

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terrypin wrote on 2/28/2018, 12:34 PM

No blizzards here on border of Sussex and Kent - but VERY cold.

Are you pressing End Key between each step?

Did you both try sometimes reducing duration instead of always increasing it?

Perhaps it's because I use dragging from external folder, but I still can't reliably use that work-around.

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johnebaker wrote on 2/28/2018, 3:05 PM

Hi Terry

. . . . Did you both try sometimes reducing duration instead of always increasing it? . . .

Yes - no matter which order I changed the size to.

. . . . Are you pressing End Key between each step? . . . .

It was not clear in the video, only pressing the End after changing the import length, ie: set length, imported the first 4 images, reset length, press End key, import the 4 images, rinse and repeat . . . .


@browj2

. . . . Surely you're not in England! . . . .

Sure am - somewhat further north of Terry. You would think it is Siberia 2 here with the cold wind, at least the wind is blowing the snow away - it is very fine powder - no good for skiing on !

. . . . Isle-aux-Coudres . . . .

Hope the crossing was smooth.

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