Playback Always Beginning From Start

JimJab0 wrote on 6/22/2013, 7:13 PM

In the middle of working on a project, Movie Edit Pro 16, the playback has "decided" to always start from the very beginning of the film. So, now editing is impossible because I must watch the entire film from the beginning. 

 

Pressing space or the play button effectively sets the carrot (or position marker) to the beginning of the film even though it is visually in a different place.  This appears to be a bug because no setting or feature changes this (that I am aware of), this happened in the middle of my work, and new projects do not have this (absolutely useless) behavior.

I have seen one other post about this, with no sufficient answer, here:

http://www.magix.info/us/the-play-back-always-starts-in-the-beginning-not.knowledge.280071.html

There appears to be no way to copy and past my timeline intact, with effects, edits, transitions, and such, into a new project, which would be one work around. 

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

 

 

Comments

terrypin wrote on 6/23/2013, 4:57 AM

Are you saying that you tried both of the following suggestions and neither works?

1. From me:
File > Manage Movie > New then copy all the timeline from your problematic movie and paste it into the new one. In my case, playback then resumed normal service.

2. From Magix Support
Use the function to optimize the timeline view in the lower right-hand corner of the screen, the icon like a double arrow <-->.

 

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

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JimJab0 wrote on 6/23/2013, 10:33 AM

Are you saying that you tried both of the following suggestions and neither works?

1. From me:
File > Manage Movie > New then copy all the timeline from your problematic movie and paste it into the new one. In my case, playback then resumed normal service.

2. From Magix Support
Use the function to optimize the timeline view in the lower right-hand corner of the screen, the icon like a double arrow <-->.

 

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

 

Thank you! The first part worked. I kept trying to open two separated Movie Edits when copying and pasting, which doesn't work. But it just opening the problemed file and then copying, going to File > Manage Movie > New, did the trick! :]

The second one, from Magix, only seems to optimize the zoom level. I recall clicking that when I had the problem and it did not work. I wonder what causes this playback issue. Maybe inadvertently pressed a shorcut, but I do not recall any feature that changes playback to such a strange manner.

terrypin wrote on 6/23/2013, 11:48 AM

Hi,

Glad to hear that sorted it.

As I mentioned in the earlier thread, I think it's just one more obscure quirk of MEP. It happens very rarely and I've not found any pattern.

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Terry, East Grinstead, UK

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IMBACORE wrote on 9/18/2017, 2:35 PM

In the middle of working on a project, Movie Edit Pro 16, the playback has "decided" to always start from the very beginning of the film. So, now editing is impossible because I must watch the entire film from the beginning. 

 

 

 

 

Apparently this bug still exists with Magix Movie Edit Pro 2015 Plus. It's driving me nuts.

How do you:

 

1. From me:
File > Manage Movie > New then copy all the timeline from your problematic movie and paste it into the new one. In my case, playback then resumed normal service.

 

 

--
Terry, East Grinstead, UK

I'd appreciate if someone would teach me how to "copy all the timeline from your problematic movie and paste it into the new one." Thanks.

browj2 wrote on 9/18/2017, 3:03 PM

Hi,

Ctrl+A (select all), Ctrl+C (copy), click on the other movie tab, Ctrl+V (paste). Everything should now be in the second movie. Check it. If all is good, save, delete the offending movie, Save as and give it a new name or revision number.

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Skyline_UK wrote on 4/17/2020, 12:07 PM

I've just encountered this bug. I'm using Pro Plus version 19.0.2.58. Surely such a bug should have been sorted by now????

johnebaker wrote on 4/17/2020, 12:26 PM

@Skyline_UK

Hi

. . . . I've just encountered this bug . . . .

Assuming you mean playback starts at the beginning - do you have the Program settings, Playback tab, Spacebar stops at current playback position option checked?

If not, check it, playback should then start from wherever the timeline cursor is when using the spacebar to stop/start.

John EB

 

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Skyline_UK wrote on 4/17/2020, 12:40 PM

Thanks. That seems to have stopped it. The constant returning to the beginning was not something I've encountered before - it came about all of a sudden! Still, all seems ok now.

FunkyB wrote on 5/12/2020, 8:31 AM

I've encountered this problem recently as I've been making larger projects than before (still less than 15 minutes though). Copying and pasting everything into a new movie does make playback work properly again. Just restarting MEP doesn't usually help. I wanted to add two things I noticed:

1) The setting "Spacebar stops at current playback position" is irrelevant. That's just the difference between setting a floating cue point (if you think like DJ software), or pausing and continuing playback. If it's set, it does change where the triangle playback head appears, but when you hit play again, a second triangle-less red cursor bar starts at the beginning of the movie.

2) This seems to happen more frequently when I start a project by Save as... from another project that has objects positioned and set that I want to re-use. In the case, the previous filename displays in parenthesis in the program title bar, and is also the title of the movie timeline. If I copy and paste into a new movie (within the same MVP file), the old filename doesn't appear anymore.

I'm going to try the copy-paste to new movie strategy BEFORE doing Save As next time and see if that makes a difference.

MEP 18.0.2.225 UDP3

emmrecs wrote on 5/12/2020, 9:07 AM

@FunkyB

1) The setting "Spacebar stops at current playback position" is irrelevant. That's just the difference between setting a floating cue point (if you think like DJ software), or pausing and continuing playback. If it's set, it does change where the triangle playback head appears, but when you hit play again, a second triangle-less red cursor bar starts at the beginning of the movie.

Not my experience! That setting does exactly what it says: stops playback at the point the Spacebar is pressed and when it is pressed again playback continues from the same point, every time.

So, that setting is NOT irrelevant. Please do not make sweeping assertions which are clearly not correct for all users. I accept this situation may occur for you, and hence may appear irrelevant but it is definitely not widely so.

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browj2 wrote on 5/12/2020, 9:46 AM

This happens to me occasionally in VPX. Restarting VPX usually helps. If not, then I save with a new revision code (r1, r2... appended to the project name) copy/paste the movie to a new movie and delete the old movie, and rename the movie. That has always seemed to work.

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Scenestealer wrote on 5/12/2020, 5:28 PM

@emmrecs @FunkyB @browj2 @johnebaker

You are correct FunkyB - that setting John EB mentioned is irrelevant for your problem which is a bug that has been in MEP / VPX for 15 or more years. What responders often don't realise is that the problem should read (and often does read) that the cursor and whole timeline view go back to the first clip in the timeline after performing an edit, not the start where it previously started playing somewhere further down the timeline.

The official Magix fix is to click the double headed arrow at the bottom right of the timeline that zooms out the view ("Optimises") to show the whole movie, reposition the cursor then zoom back in again with the adjacent plus and minus buttons. Strange as it seems - this works for the current project so there is no need to create a new movie.

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mythagoman wrote on 6/30/2020, 10:16 AM

I've experienced exactly the same problem. File > Manage Movie > New then copy all the timeline from your problematic movie and paste it into the new one seems to be an effective, if clumsy solution.

Northeagle66 wrote on 7/6/2020, 7:31 PM

Same Problem. the following worked out for me. Thanks terrypin

From Magix Support
Use the function to optimize the timeline view in the lower right-hand corner of the screen, the icon like a double arrow <-->.

Former user wrote on 7/10/2020, 3:23 PM

Northeagle, Same for me, the movie would jump to start & only play from the beginning, in the preview window the range at the bottom in point [ & out point ] were at exactly the same position making the movie length reading at the bottom of the preview 00:00, which is impossible to recreate, when this happens now i press the optimize timeline view bottom right & that annoyingly sets the timeline to complete movie length but does correct the range & it then plays as it should.

AlwaysaPlanB wrote on 1/31/2021, 10:24 AM

Creating a new movie using the old one is all very well but it does not copy all the chapter markers.

If this bug has been known for so long, why haven't Magix sorted it out?
(And I know the fact that software works at all should be a marvel, but when you come to rely on something, when it causes you extra work, it is really rather irritating.)

johnebaker wrote on 1/31/2021, 11:06 AM

@AlwaysaPlanB

Hi

Did you read @Scenestealer post above.

I do not have MEP 2020 installed any more, however I did not encounter this issue of jumping back when an edit was made or using the play/stop or spacebar to control playback once the spacebar behaviour option in the program setting was set.

MEP 2021 also behaves exactly as it should using stop/start and after making an edit - in the case of the example below the removal of a clip.

John EB

 

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browj2 wrote on 2/1/2021, 10:11 AM

@AlwaysaPlanB

Hi,

This happened to me yesterday in VPX. I hit the Optimize button (extend project full width of the timeline) and went back to where I was on the timeline, zoomed back in on the timeline and kept working. It took less time than to type this message.

I agree that it's an annoyance, but it doesn't happen often and it's not reproducible, so very difficult to fix, I would imagine. There are other real problems that require fixing before this.

John CB

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siegbrunn wrote on 2/12/2022, 11:37 AM

Glad to have found this. I've been tearing my hair out with this and my film is only 4 minutes! I know I had this once already 5 or 10 years ago, but couldn't remember how I finally fixed it. It was NOT the double arrow back then that saved my sanity, but just now that worked perfectly.
Two things to mention: The film is very short at the moment and will grow a bit to perhaps 14 minutes. Who knows, maybe this isn't solved yet. Also I have used more "save as....." actions as I am making four "pieces" of film each on the same basis. Perhaps that had something to do with the problem. I am using Magix Movie Edit Pro 2019 (19.0.1.31).
Karen