Problem with NewBlue Titler EX in VPX10

browj2 wrote on 5/11/2019, 10:14 AM

VPX 16.0.2.322

NB Titler EX does not show up correctly in the preview monitor. I have to switch Video mode to Alternative Mode 2 to get it to show up properly on the screen. With Standard mode and Compatibility mode, the title shows up as shown in the first image below. This seems to be only on my desktop; it works fine on my laptop.

Does anyone else have this problem?

It shows up correctly in the exported file. Exported - just the above frame to jpeg:

I noted on the bug list that the same problem occurs with Red Giant Knoll Light Factory EZ.

John CB

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Former user wrote on 5/11/2019, 12:59 PM

Do you have performance mode turned on for Preview? (Is the button with a little lightning bolt on it blue?)

If so, try turning that off and see what happens.

browj2 wrote on 5/11/2019, 1:08 PM

@Former user

Hi,

No, that has nothing to do with it. You can see that the lightning bolt in the first image is off. If I turn it on (blue) and if Deactivate effects (one of the options) is on, then the title disappears completely, as it should since it's an effect.

We have had trouble in the past with some effects causing the screen to go black in Standard mode on some computers but not all. Magix managed to correct them, but it seems that some older ones may have lingered around.

John CB

Scenestealer wrote on 5/12/2019, 6:33 PM

Hi @browj2

I just wonder if your display problems are due to your relatively low spec HD5770 10year old graphics card in your desktop and a cpu that has no iGPU? Can you try a higher spec. graphics card?

Peter

browj2 wrote on 5/12/2019, 11:27 PM

@Scenestealer

Hi Peter,

The effects, NB Titler EX and Knoll Light Factory are fairly old, worked in previous versions of VPX and also work fine in MEP2019. Thus, I would expect them to work with my old computer (I just bought it not long ago it seems) in VPX10. It keeps chugging along quite well, for the most part, just slowly.

Note that John EB and some other have complained about NB OFX effects causing the screen to go black. I haven't had that happen since VPX8 or 9.

I don't have another graphics card to try.

John CB

browj2 wrote on 5/13/2019, 8:53 AM

@Scenestealer @Former user

RESOLVED!

I came across this quite by accident in the forum of another program and I don't recall seeing this problem/solution in the Magix forum. "Is your monitor connected by DVI or HDMI?"

I use 2 screens for VPX, 1 for MEP. My main screen is connected by DVI, secondary by HDMI. The Preview and Source monitors in VPX are on the secondary screen connected by HDMI. When I put the Preview monitor on the main screen, problem solved. When I moved MEP over to the secondary monitor, the NB Title went wonky, same as in VPX.

This would probably explain why the colours my monitors look different even after doing a ColorMunki Smile adjustment. The desktop Windows default screen on the secondary monitor looks quite blue, whereas it's more cyan on the primary monitor. Which one is correct?

Now that I know the solution, I may live with it or switch the connection methods or adjust my VPX setup.

Thanks for looking at this.

John CB

browj2 wrote on 5/13/2019, 9:17 AM

Ooops! Not quite the solution.

This is very strange. In dragging the Preview and Secondary windows around, they fluctuate from working properly to not - on both screens.

I managed to recreate my 2-screen setup and have both monitors display correctly on the secondary screen, just by resizing the windows. Strange.

John CB

Former user wrote on 6/3/2019, 6:28 PM

This would probably explain why the colours my monitors look different even after doing a ColorMunki Smile adjustment. The desktop Windows default screen on the secondary monitor looks quite blue, whereas it's more cyan on the primary monitor. Which one is correct?

Neither. You need a color calibrated reference monitor to get accurate colors.

And if you need 10-Bit, you need a Quadro GPU or a Video Card (i.e. Blackmagic Design) to send the signal to the monitor - GeForce doesn't support 10-Bit Natively.

Consumer Monitors are not calibrated for accurate colors, and they often don't even have full gamut support. It's impossible to color correct or grade with confidence on that equipment. You'd have to render out to check everything on all manner of displays to make sure you're "in the ballpark."

That's also why you're getting disparate results when calibrating them.

With a reference display, you do your work and if it doesn't look correctly on another display... it's that display's fault :-P Because you're is color-accurate...

This is why the Game of Thrones cinematographers had no problem blaming peoples' TVs or HBO when they complained about that episode being too dark.