Remnants Of Magix Software Remain After Removal

CarpentersMate wrote on 12/10/2021, 11:18 PM

Hi Gang

Happy Holidays!

Just want to confirm its 'ok' to re-install MEP when there's still pieces remaining?

http://www.ww2survivorstories.com/Remnants.jpg

I used Revo Uninstaller Pro 4.1.0 and scanned for 'Leftover Files' ... I'm thinking those pieces could be 'left over' buried in the registry due to a faulty original installation? Some of those files are also older 'Project Files'

Thank You

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emmrecs wrote on 12/11/2021, 4:44 AM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike.

First, the latest version of Revo Uninstaller Pro is 4.5.0 so if you are running the paid for (Pro) version you are several builds behind.

Second many of those folders you showed in your screenshot (incidentally, please attach screenshots to your posts so we don't have to access an external server in order to view them!) are in your Documents folder, rather than Program Files or Program Data (if Win 7 (?) has the latter, I really can't remember). Have you checked whether there is any content in them - they may simply be empty folders? Do you have any other Magix software installed on your computer? If so, it is possible, though unlikely I think, that some contents of those folders could be linked to that other software.

It is also worth saying that if Revo did not list those folders and their contents after its Advanced Scan, it is, in my experience, highly unlikely that they contain anything which might hinder the reinstallation. You also mention the Registry; again, Revo Pro searches the registry for unnecessary entries and lists them for you; if you saw nothing it is unlikely that there is anything there that could prevent successful reinstallation.

HTH

Jeff

Win 11 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 14700, 32 GB RAM, NVidia RTX 4060 and Intel UHD770 Graphics, Audient EVO 16 audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, Vegas Pro, PhotoStory Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

CarpentersMate wrote on 12/11/2021, 6:18 AM

Hi Jeff

Nice to see you ... 😎

Yes there's an update for Revo (was a little hesitant) that update might turn the program into 'subscription based'? Anyway I'll give it a try ...

No I do not have any other active Magix programs installed: The installation or removal tab shows no more Magix folders or files left ... (which of course isn't completely true). But I don't think those 'residuals' would be problematic? No they are not linked or 'data program connected' to any other active software.

Yes that Magix folder has 'generic' leftover meaningless project files which appear to turn into 'active' files after the program is re-installed. Something tells me do not just simply DELETE them as they still could reside/hide in the registry somewhere?

I'll leave a few more screen shots of the 'inside contents' soon ...

Thank You Jeff ..

Mike

 

For Magix: Running Windows 10 Professional 64 bit - Dell Precision Workstation 3620 - i7 7700K 4.20 GHz Processor - 32GB Memory - (onboard video), Asus PCI Sound Card - iGPU - Two Twin esata 2TB External Drives. And for other software: Two Mac Pro Desktops with PCI & PCIe Soundcards & nVidia GeForce Graphics Cards - Mimimum memory of 16GB with #10 2TB esata Twin External Drives.

 

emmrecs wrote on 12/11/2021, 8:30 AM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike,

Revo is not subscription-based (at the moment, at least). The user pays for each "major" version release, so if/when version 5 is released that will entail some payment.

If you're worried about some project files, why not move them to an external drive so that, once those folders are removed, should you find you want/need those specific files you can always copy them back to the folder in Documents where they were previously. However, do remember that "project" files, i.e., any .MVP files, actually contain NO video or audio data, each one is simply a "database" listing the last-known location of each element of your project along with information about exactly which file to use, where, when, for how long, with what effects, etc., etc..

Jeff

Win 11 Pro 64 bit, Intel i7 14700, 32 GB RAM, NVidia RTX 4060 and Intel UHD770 Graphics, Audient EVO 16 audio interface, VPX, MEP, Music Maker, Vegas Pro, PhotoStory Deluxe, Xara 3D Maker 7, Samplitude Pro X7 Suite, Reaper, Adobe Audition CC, 2 x Canon HG10 cameras, 1 x Canon EOS 600D, Akaso EK7000 Pro Action Cam

CarpentersMate wrote on 12/11/2021, 12:07 PM

Hi again Jeff

".MVP files, actually contain NO video or audio data"

Yes my helpful friend I'm aware of that 🙂 Thank You 😉 As I mentioned "meaningless" until the software is re-installed ...

"The user pays for each "major" version release" Yes I just bought the Revo update thank you ...

I actually don't have any MVP files (at the moment) that are of any value to me .. but thanks for the clarification ..

Unfortunately I've had too many freezes lately (possibly the limitation of my current PC)? And still only working with SD material (so not sure as to why)? .. it gets a bit frustrating .. I'm putting together a faster system (eventually) .... I'd rather start off with a fresh install and get that new i7 system together ....

Thanks again Jeff!

 

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CubeAce wrote on 12/11/2021, 12:18 PM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike.

Unfortunately I've had too many freezes lately (possibly the limitation of my current PC)? And still only working with SD material (so not sure as to why)

You may well find that. Although your projects may not use higher resolution video than before the newer versions of the programs are written to take advantage of the newer hardware that has more capacity for calculating requirements to cope with the higher resolution higher bit depth requirements of new resolutions and codecs and the expected speed increases that gives. Unfortunately that has a incremental detrimental effect on older hardware.

Ray.

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CarpentersMate wrote on 12/11/2021, 12:36 PM

Hey Ray

Thank you! 😆

Well then maybe I'll get better results stepping up to an Intel i7-4790 3.60GHz (of course maxing out the RAM), 1-2GB Video Card and Sound Card? The current system is only an Intell i3 - 2120 3.3 GHz

Mike

For Magix: Running Windows 10 Professional 64 bit - Dell Precision Workstation 3620 - i7 7700K 4.20 GHz Processor - 32GB Memory - (onboard video), Asus PCI Sound Card - iGPU - Two Twin esata 2TB External Drives. And for other software: Two Mac Pro Desktops with PCI & PCIe Soundcards & nVidia GeForce Graphics Cards - Mimimum memory of 16GB with #10 2TB esata Twin External Drives.

 

johnebaker wrote on 12/11/2021, 1:10 PM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike

. . . . I'll get better results stepping up to an Intel i7-4790 3.60GHz . . . .

There is a catch 22 situation with 4th generation Intel Processors

If you do not want to ever update to a newer version of MEP or use Windows 10 then a 4th generation processor based PC would be OK.

However, if at a later date, you do decide to update to Windows 10/11 and/or to a more modern version of MEP then using a 4th gen Intel processor based PC has an issue.

Intel have identified a security vulnerability with 4th generation processors and have disabled the ability to use hardware acceleration in the latest drivers for those processors, they do provide links to older drivers, however using these would be at your own risk.

I would suggest if you have not got the 4th generation Intel based system yet, look for what that uses a 5th or 6th generation processor with integrated graphics.

John EB

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CarpentersMate wrote on 12/11/2021, 1:22 PM

Hi John

Nice to see you again ...

So then to be clear: Intel i7 is actually a 4th generation processor?

Yes I would like to install W10 Pro in the newer machine and see how MEP 2016 works in it ... ?

And BTW after I've activated all required software I plan on disconnecting that machine from the internet, but I'm not sure if that would make a difference?

Is this what you're referring to?

https://www.pcgamer.com/a-security-flaw-leads-intel-to-disable-directx-12-on-its-4th-gen-cpus/

No I haven't bought the PC yet (there's a bunch on ebay).

Thank You

Mike

 

For Magix: Running Windows 10 Professional 64 bit - Dell Precision Workstation 3620 - i7 7700K 4.20 GHz Processor - 32GB Memory - (onboard video), Asus PCI Sound Card - iGPU - Two Twin esata 2TB External Drives. And for other software: Two Mac Pro Desktops with PCI & PCIe Soundcards & nVidia GeForce Graphics Cards - Mimimum memory of 16GB with #10 2TB esata Twin External Drives.

 

CubeAce wrote on 12/11/2021, 1:34 PM

@CarpentersMate

Hi Mike.

The Intel processor numbers are explained here.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

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johnebaker wrote on 12/11/2021, 1:58 PM

@CarpentersMate, @CubeAce

Hi Mike, Ray

Darn-it , when I moved the text around it dropped the example of a processor generation identifier - thanks Ray for stepping in. 👍

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

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CarpentersMate wrote on 12/11/2021, 2:18 PM

Ray - John

Thanx for the information ...

So then (considering my goal as above) wonder which way to go? Which Processor?

Thanks again...

Mike

For Magix: Running Windows 10 Professional 64 bit - Dell Precision Workstation 3620 - i7 7700K 4.20 GHz Processor - 32GB Memory - (onboard video), Asus PCI Sound Card - iGPU - Two Twin esata 2TB External Drives. And for other software: Two Mac Pro Desktops with PCI & PCIe Soundcards & nVidia GeForce Graphics Cards - Mimimum memory of 16GB with #10 2TB esata Twin External Drives.

 

CubeAce wrote on 12/11/2021, 2:53 PM

@CarpentersMate @johnebaker @emmrecs

Hi Mike.

What John pointed out is that the 4th generations of processors had their ability to update their graphics drivers disabled. That would make no difference to whether the computer was internet connected or not. That would make changing to Win 10 later impossible. Processors starting with i7-5 or i7-6 would be better. An i5 will not have as many cores and will result in a performance hit.

Really I would love a to see comments from either @johnebaker or @AAProds or @emmrecs as they have experience with MEP 2016 which is before my time.

Ray.

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."