Rotation of one video in a stereoscopic pair (bug?)

Luker wrote on 2/18/2019, 1:33 PM

So I'm trying to do some 3d editing on my dual gopro rig. One of the cameras is upside down so I have to rotate it in MME.

BUT. when I the try to allign and edit the 3d pair, the video I rotated snaps pack to upside down in the viewer. The timeline shows it as right side up but that is wrong. I have also tried exporting but the error stays. It's very annoying cause I can't seem to find a way to just rotate the video and edit it in movie editor. Do I have to get another piece of software to rotate the video before importing it into MME? That seems too weird.

Does anyone have a clue on how to solve this??

Using Magix Movie Editor pro 18 on a windows 10 system

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emmrecs wrote on 2/19/2019, 3:54 AM

Hi.

I've never done any 3d editing with MEP (precisely which version and variant, by the way, check under Help>About Movie Edit Pro) but I wonder if the "simplest" method of correcting this problem is to open the upside-down file in an MEP project, use Rotation to correct it and then export that corrected version, perhaps as .mxv file.

Then, in a new project bring in the two GoPro files (one "original" and one "corrected") and carry out your 3d editing.

All the above is theoretical; I have no idea how well it would work in practice! 😟

HTH

Jeff

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me_again wrote on 2/19/2019, 4:45 AM

Greetings,

I wonder if this is the same (or similar) problem I have with rotation and cropping.

I've written on this many time's, the latest being here - number 11:

https://www.magix.info/uk/forum/movie-edit-pro-new-patch-18-0-2-235--1221856/

AndyW

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johnebaker wrote on 2/19/2019, 5:06 AM

@Luker

Hi

The somewhat obvious solution is not to cause the issue in the first instance, ie is there a reason why one camera is upside down?

All the units I have seen they are both in identical orientation.

John EB

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Luker wrote on 2/19/2019, 5:09 AM

@johnebaker i’m using a dual gopro rig with a sync box that forces one camera to record upside down. I’ve tried to bypass but it can’t be done.

johnebaker wrote on 2/19/2019, 5:23 AM

@Luker

Hi

Thanks for the quick reply - what make/model is the sync box ?

John EB

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PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

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Luker wrote on 2/19/2019, 5:32 AM

@johnebaker 

it’s the dual gopro hero 3 3D sync system.

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1034050-REG/gopro_ahd3d_301_dual_hero_system_for.html

Luker wrote on 2/19/2019, 5:33 AM

@me_again

sounds like it’s the same issue. Let’s hope they fix it soon!

me_again wrote on 2/19/2019, 5:42 AM

Luker

I've just done a quick 3D test (first time I've really played with 3D) and your problem DOES seem to be associated with my rotation problem already documented. Cropping / zooming rotated images for me is tricky, nigh on impossible for you and 3D by the look of it.

For those that are (were) as confused as me as to why right is OK and left is upside down, this in a extract from the Dual GoPro manual:

Note: Upon insertion of the Sync Cable, the primary (right) camera will automatically set itself to UP mode (right side up), and the secondary (left) camera will automatically set itself to UPd mode (upside down). These settings are required for simultaneous capture, and for recording synchronized footage to create 3D content.

Seems that you'll have to wait until the Gremlins are removed from MEP in a future patch / update, mind you I've been waiting since version 2019 came on the scene months ago.

AndyW

 

ps - How do you get the name, for example @me_again to show as a blue hyperlink?

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johnebaker wrote on 2/19/2019, 6:38 AM

@Luker

Hi

Aah - thanks for the link, now I can see that one camera is physically upside down in the housing - to maintain the approximate same interocular distance as the human eye - hence the recording being set to upside down.

I thought you may have been using something like this.

I would agree with Andy that it is the same issue as he has been having.

@me_again type the @ then the list of posters for this topic should open and you can select the user required - this also sends a notification to the user(s) as you will have received one for this comment. Note if you want to add the user in the middle of a sentence then there must be a space before and after where you are going to type the @ otherwise it does not work.

HTH

John EB

 

 

 

 

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PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

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me_again wrote on 2/19/2019, 7:01 AM

Late again I see. I must start refreshing pages before I answer to see who's done what and when.

Thanks for the info John, doesn't seem to work for me using Internet explorer; does if I use Edge (don't like that though)

AndyW

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Luker wrote on 2/19/2019, 7:06 AM

@johnebaker

actually The camera adjusts so that it captures it upside down because of the 3d system. But the IPD i way to small and I like to film with a wide IPD so I’ve turned the camera around witch is the only way to make it work.

Luker wrote on 2/19/2019, 7:07 AM

@me_again

thanks for replying. Guess I’ll have to join you in waiting for a patch.