SCREEN SIZE

rookiefilmmusic wrote on 9/17/2013, 2:22 PM

                                                                           I HAVE MOVIE EDIT PRO MX

 

I AM USING THE ABOVE PROGRAMME AND FIND IT EXTREMELY EASY TO USE. HOWEVER THERE IS ONE PROBLEM THAT I CANNOT OVERCOME AND IT IS THE FINAL SCREEN SIZE OF THE PICTURE ONCE IT HAS BEEN COMMITTED TO THE BURN . NOT ONLY DOES THE PICTURE HAVE THE USUAL TOP AND BOTTOM BLACK BARS, IT ALSO HAS BLACK BARS TO THE SIDES AS WELL. I SEE LITTLE POINT IN HAVING A NICE BIG TV SCREEN IF ONLY A VERY SMALL PART OF IT IS GOING TO BE USED!

 

CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF IT POSSIBLE TO INCREASE PICTURE SIZE TO AT LEAST FILL THE SIDES OF THE SCREEN, AND BETTER STILL, IS IT POSSIBLE TO FILL THE ENTIRE SCREEN? OF COURSE THERE IS PROVISION USING THE TV MENU TO INCREASE PICTURE SIZE BUT I'D LIKE IT TO BE CARRIED OUT DURING THE EDITING/BURNING STAGE...THAT WAY IT WILL FILL THE SCREEN NO MATTER WHAT TV IT IS BEING PLAYED BACK ONTO.

 

I AM EDITING FULL HD FOOTAGE. IF I PLAY THE FOOTAGE BACK STRAIGHT FROM THE CAMCORDER ONTO THE TV THEN IT AUTOMATICALLY FILLS THE WHOLE SCREEN.

 

ALL HELP GRATEFULLY ACCEPTED.

 

THANK YOU

 

RAY

Comments

johnebaker wrote on 9/17/2013, 4:56 PM

Hi

Please do not type in capitals it is considered as shouting.

Please give more information - without knowing the video format and resolution you are importing, the project settings and the settings you are using to burn the DVD, we can only guess what the problem.

John

 

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yvon-robert wrote on 9/17/2013, 9:02 PM

Hi,

If you have a big screen TV, I suppose you use a Blu-Ray player and need best quality in movie. The TV screen size is 1920 x 1080 and the movie size must be 1920 x 1080 or 1280 x 720 normally bigger is better. High definition (HD) = Blu-Ray disk. If you create, a DVD output size is 720 x 480 in NTSC, that means less quality and more grainy on TV you must use the zoom on your TV. With software you can create Blu-Ray or HD and DVD this SD both disk can be read on Blu-Ray player but a DVD player can read only a DVD this is SD (Standard definition)
Screen size 1920 x 1080 =HD = 1.777 ratio between length and height
Screen size 720 x 480 =SD = 1.50 ratio give black bars on side.

Regards,

YR

rookiefilmmusic wrote on 9/18/2013, 5:57 AM

Did not mean to use capitals, was in a hurry to get msg posted before going to offer some assistance to a neighbour.

 

It is full HD 1920x1080 and PAL. I am only using a standard DVD player and not Blue Ray.

 

I do realize that I can use the zoom on my TV to fill the screen, however what I'd like to try and do is to create a standard output that will ultimately play on anyone's DVD player and without them needing to use their zoom facility. I also realize that if I go down in picture quality then that too will also fill the screen, however that rather defeats the object of using Hi-Def footage in the first place.

yvon-robert wrote on 9/18/2013, 6:33 AM

Hi,

You work on Pal Secam standard DVD is 720 x 576 pixels all recent TV can reach 1920 x 1080.  If you see black borders on screen image you have no choice to use the zoom function on TV display.

No function on DVD can do automatically for you.

By default picture quality is set to 9, you can use up to 15 also you can use VBR or maximum bitrate allowed this help to obtain cristal color but better is Blu-Ray output using a Blu-Ray player. Blu-Ray disk price drop month after month and about same for the player price.

Regards,

YR

rookiefilmmusic wrote on 9/18/2013, 9:11 AM

I am most grateful for the help you have given. I will do as you say and use the zoom facility.

Arthur-LW wrote on 9/18/2013, 11:07 AM

I had a similar situation and got help here:
http://www.magix.info/us/43-pal-to-ntsc-widescreen.knowledge.861666.html


Currently I am working on The Rifleman series.  The owners of the franchise have released 50 episodes which can be downloaded from hulu.  (I used PlayLater software.)


While the programs come as MPEG-4 at 720 X 404 (and a overall bit rate of 2615 Kbps I can expand them to 16:9 using the settings below.  Mind you, nothing can increase the bit rate of something already recorded, so if you can it is best to employ the highest bit rate possible if you are doing the recording or capturing.
Still, as has been pointed out, the highest you can get with the DVD format is 720 x 480, even if you get a store-bought one.  Yet we watched professional-quality DVDs for years and thought they gave us a great picture. 


But back to my settings for The Rifleman.  My MEP global settings are Settings — Program Settings: NTSC, Full resolution, and Settings — Project/Movie:  1920 x 1080, 16:9, 29.97.  (Naturally you will have to adapt yours if you are using PAL.) 

To get the picture to fill the screen I use
Position:    -340 Left,            0 Top, 
Size:           2600 Width,  1080 Height.


Now while MPEG-4 certainly is no High-Def, it displays on a medium-size wide screen TV without noticeable graininess.  I'd hate to have to look at it on a 10' projector screen, but at least it fills the TV's screen without using the zoom settings to distort it.


Happy viewing!


P;.S.  A handy tool for evaluating your video and audio contents is MediaInfo
http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo  (Free, but donations gladly accepted.)

johnebaker wrote on 9/18/2013, 12:25 PM

Hi Ray

Thanks for the info about the imported video format, however you have not answered the other two parts of my question ie the project settings and the settings you are using to burn the DVD, 

Your countr setting indicatesyou are from the US yet you are using PAL video is this correct?

As the imported movie is 1920 * 1080 HD I would suspect that if you see it 'full screen' ie no black bars in the preview monitor, then something is not set correctly in the DVD burn dialog.

Screenshots ot hte following dialogs would be very useful  Project settings,  Part of the timeline including the preview monitor, the DVD burn dialog and which options you are setting  as shown in this image

 

John

 

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

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rookiefilmmusic wrote on 9/18/2013, 2:29 PM

Hi John

Will experiment and get back to you as soon as I am able with some information, however due to commitments it may not be possible to actually do anything for a couple of days. As a matter of interest, I do live in  the UK in Surrey, England, hence PAL system.

 

Ray

rookiefilmmusic wrote on 9/24/2013, 7:54 AM

I'd like to thank everyone for the wonderful help you have given me concerning screen size. I now have the problem sorted thanks to the tips you have provided. Again, many thanks

 

Ray