Setting multiple objects to same size window

BSMan wrote on 5/22/2021, 7:33 AM

This is for a virtual choir video using Video ProX2. I have cropped each video to approximately the frame I want, but then need to set all objects to the same size, ideally using one object as the master for the size and then selecting multiple other objects and setting them to the same size as the "master" window. While each object may be cropped to about the same frame size, they may not be exactly the same. I am hoping this can be done rather than setting the frame size individually for each object.

Bob S.

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CubeAce wrote on 5/22/2021, 8:54 AM

Hi Bob.

Right click on your master object (video clip) and select 'Copy video effects' Select the effects you need from the list such as size or crop or both. Then select the next object and right click it to select 'Paste video Effects'. All you have to do then is drag the clip into the new relevant position. The effect of the master must be the same as you want for subsequent copies though. Expecting a portrait video to be cropped the same as a landscape one is not going to happen.

Personally speaking I would do each individually anyway to try to match exposure and colour saturation of each clip so one does not stand out more than the others. Are all the clips the same resolution ratios? If not you could end up with some odd looking people. Not all phones for instance record at say a 16 x 9 ratio any more. You may need to crop each individually before size and positioning the frame, either to incorporate the instrument as well as the musician or so they all look like they were the same distance from each camera.

The devil is always in the detail.

Ray.

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BSMan wrote on 5/29/2021, 10:16 AM

Hi Ray,

Thanks for the tip. It really helped solve my problem. I am wondering what the shortcuts to copy video effects and to paste them (as opposed to right click, etc). It looks like copy is shift - while paste is just the "-", but they don't seem to work. This will make it easier to apply effects to multiple objects at the same time.

Thanks,

Bob

CubeAce wrote on 5/29/2021, 10:48 AM

@BSMan @browj2

Hi Bob.

I'm really not the person to ask about shortcuts as I'm primarily used to using the mouse for most things.

I'm what you may call a leisurely editor 😉.

That would be John EBs' specialty, so I have added him to the reply in a hope that he sees this topic to help you.

Ray.

 

 

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browj2 wrote on 5/29/2021, 10:59 AM

@BSMan

Hi Bob,

Reverse your shortcuts - to copy.

Search for the shortcuts PDF file that comes with VPX.

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AAProds wrote on 5/29/2021, 8:42 PM

@BSMan Bob, assuming VPX is the same as MEP, the keyboard shortcuts are also shown on the right-click menu for each action.

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BSMan wrote on 6/2/2021, 6:49 PM

I saw the shortcuts displayed when I right clicked and selected video effects. The menu displayed showed shortcuts, but it looked like the shortcut for paste the copied shortcuts was shift and a minus sign. Turns out that it's shift underscore (which is shift and the dash).

But after figuring the shortcuts out I have not been able to keep the pasted fade in shortcut in the many objects I pasted it to. Looked like it worked, but when I generated the video the fade ins were not there. I tried this a number of times including removing the lock on each object before pasting and doing each object individually. It looked like the fade ins were there, but they did not appear in the rendered video and then disappeared from the editing timeline. I've now tried manually setting the fade in for each object, but the problem with doing it that way is that each fade in will not be exactly the same, which is important when multiple windows start being displayed at the same time. As I write this the video is being rendered, so I'm hoping it works, but the result will not be as uniform as it should be.

I assume that when pasting fade ins/outs that the lock has to be taken off each object before pasting, even though the fade ins/outs displayed when I initially tried the pasting. This inability to keep pasted fade ins/outs is very frustrating and has been for me a big time waster.

Bob

johnebaker wrote on 6/3/2021, 3:17 AM

@BSMan

Hi

When a track is locked you can only perform a limited number of actions to an object on the timeline.

For a lot of editing the track lock has to be off.

Personally I only use the track locks after I have completed all the edits, effects etc.

I also save the project regularly and if there are major edits use versioning as well - adding a number to the file name using Save project as option.

As far as naming of the particular key - minus is the most common designation for the key, thogh some refer to it hyphen or dash - the convention when referring to keys such as the top row of the keyboard is to use the name of the character you get without pressing the shift key,

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CubeAce wrote on 6/3/2021, 5:22 AM

@BSMan @johnebaker

 

Personally I only use the track locks after I have completed all the edits, effects etc.

I also save the project regularly and if there are major edits use versioning as well - adding a number to the file name using Save project as option.

 

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AAProds wrote on 6/3/2021, 7:35 AM

@BSMan You can type in the exact fade time: RC on the video and choose the Object Trimmer. You can set the exact fade (in and out) in frames at the top of the sloping lines display.

Would be quicker to have the Paste function work though...

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

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Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

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GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

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(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

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Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

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johnebaker wrote on 6/3/2021, 8:12 AM

@BSMan

For transitions the copy/paste ( minus, shift + minus) does not work only fade in/out can be copied this way.

For transitions such as crossfade etc, they have there own method of propagating the same transition and settings throughout a track - set up the first transition as required, then right click it and select Apply to all of following objects in the track, or Apply to all objects in the track - do note the subtle difference between the 2 options, the second will apply to any objects before the one you have just set as well as those following.

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BSMan wrote on 11/13/2021, 2:01 PM

Is there some way to accomplish the following? Start full screen zooming in to a section, then display that section for a while, then zoom out to full screen. If I set up three clips from the original clip I can define the section I want in the middle section; however, there does not seem to be a way to set up the first section so it starts with full screen then zooms in to the same section defined in the second clip, since I would like to copy the section selection only to the ending point of the zoom. Same situation with the third clip except in reverse where I start with the section and zoom out to full screen. The problem seems to be that I can't copy the defined section to the starting or ending points of the zoom effects.

Bob

johnebaker wrote on 11/14/2021, 5:20 AM

@BSMan

Hi

. . . . If I set up three clips from the original clip . . . .

Is this what you are trying to achieve?

Has original clip just been cut into 3 sections without removing parts of it?

If so this is not necessary - we have already covered this in your previous topic here.

For clarification the frame order is as shown in the image below.

The zoom in/out can be repeated as many times as you wish however the keyframes must be in the sequence shown above and below.

If sections have been removed from the clip - then after pasting the effect reversing the position of the keyframes is required in alternate sections.

The only issue is as @CubeAce has said 'Expecting a portrait video to be cropped the same as a landscape one is not going to happen.'

Once you copied and pasted the effects from the master, you will have to tweak the adjustments, particularly when the sections are in different parts of the image.

John EB

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