Third Party settings within MEP (Boris Titler) Update findings.

CubeAce wrote on 7/5/2020, 6:36 AM

This was something I did not expect but was having difficulty getting a smooth playback within MEP when using some of the more demanding templates in Boris Titler.

I went to graphics settings and added Boris Titler but set it to High performance.

That has taken a big load off of the Intel GPU and CPU and given me a normal smooth playback at 4K

On export, as long as I now tick the previous unticked 'Calculate Video Effects on GPU' it has now reduced my export time down by roughly a third. Taken some load off of the CPU but loaded about a quarter more data to memory.

Boris Titler inside MEP is also working more fluidly than before and I'm not having to wait for alterations I make to templates to update as I did before.

I'm wondering if this could be applied to other third party plug-ins.

As I said I think on another thread I've been playing with Boris Titler for some time now to see what it can do and put a small video up to show some ideas. If anyone is interested it's here.

Ray

 

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CubeAce wrote on 7/5/2020, 10:33 AM

Update.

I tried a real file project with only limited titling using Boris effects.

So for a mixed 4K project of 4minutes 50 seconds at the best quality export settings to MP4.

With setting Boris Titler in Windows to High performance, the playback in the video editor is smooth and easy to work with. Boris Titler is easier and quicker to work with in both of it's own editors and takes changes to templates quicker, slowing down editing time.

Exporting this way and Ticking 'Calculate Video Effects on GPU' gave me an export time of 28mins 37 secs.

Leaving the 'Calculate Video Effects on GPU' unticked the export time improved down to 19mins 51 secs.

Leaving Boris effects alone in Windows and not setting a GPU behaviour Makes Boris effects more sluggish in use and much worse in the editing window.

The export time with 'Calculate Video Effects on GPU' left unticked still gave the best export time of 15mins 51 secs.

So swings and roundabouts.

Converting a Boris Title Effects only clip to MP4 is still quicker with the method mentioned.

If however it's a mixed content export with little Boris Title content then Leaving Boris Titler Effects alone in Windows results in better export performance but a much less welcome and slower user experience during editing.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

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CubeAce wrote on 7/6/2020, 8:06 AM

I have now added the New Blue and Hit Film effects to windows with a High Power setting.

Apart from getting a smoother playback I can't say there have been any advantages or disadvantages beyond it seems to have lessened the workload on the Intel GPU during playback and exporting.

 

The nvidia card seems to be using the Cuda cores when some of the internal MEP effects are in use. Which ones, I'm not sure but so far it could be the cookie cutter or the Play speed, or image size or all of the above. There also appears to be some activity in 'Copy' that I had not noticed before.

CPU usage seems more evenly spread across cores than before. A lot of the 3D rendering the Intel GPU was doing has now been reduced.

Other than the smoother playback in MEPs editing window I can't say I've noticed or measured any difference in either the quality of the exports or the render times but a lot of load seems to have been taken away from the Intel GPU during the exporting of MP4 files.

I am going to try exporting an HEVC file type next.

Ray.

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."