Thanks for replying Terry :)

It's in Magix Movie Edit Pro 2015 Premium, V14.0.0.176 (UDPP3)

It's on windows 7 x64

Hi

. . . . . It doesn't matter how I do it, I always get the same error. . . . .

Where are you selecting the Timecode from and how are you applying it and to what - video, image or both?

. . . . Am I the only one getting this error, . . .

So far you are the only one I have seen who is geting this problem - the timecode works OK in my MEP 2015 same update version.

John EB

I've found the cause of the error!

If I start the movie-project with audio set to 44.1 kHz the timecode plugin fails every time.

If I start the movie-project with audio set to 48 kHz the timecode works correct.

How about that :)

I guess that must qualify as an actual bug in MEP and (for once) not user-error :)

Hi

. . . . I guess that must qualify as an actual bug in MEP and (for once) not user-error :) . . . .

Would definitely agree on both counts there  .

I can reproduce it plus another peculiarity - when I tried to change the Audio rate back to 48000 I lost my timeline as well - required restart of MEP to bring it back.

John EB

another peculiarity - when I tried to change the Audio rate back to 48000 I lost my timeline as well - required restart of MEP to bring it back.

John EB

EDIT: Yes I managed to replicate that behavior. Timeline completely vanished and I had to press Control-Alt-Delete to actually close MEP (It locked up and wouldn't exit to desktop)

Old answer:

I can't seem to replicate that particular one.

I start a new project, set audio to 44kHz, put a clip on the timeline (which locks the audio-rate in movie project settings. I have to empty the timeline of all clips, both video and audio, to be able to adjust audio-rate), add timecode (which throws error), empty timeline of all clips, change audio to 48 in movie project settings (so I'm not actually starting a new project), timeline is still there, add clip to timeline, add timecode (which now works).

I can do this back and forth several times without the timeline disappearing. But I can only change the audio-rate if the timeline is completely empty.

I guess that must qualify as an actual bug in MEP and (for once) not user-error :)

I wonder?  Not wishing to be "provocative" but audio for video is most commonly at 48kHz (or multiples thereof).  I suspect the timecode plug-in uses the sample frequency of the audio, together with the frame rate of the video, to create its display.  So, if the audio is not running at the "expected" sample frequency the plug-in cannot generate its data.

Perhaps a limitation of the code used for the plug-in (by design?) and not a bug?

Hi

. . . . audio for video is most commonly at 48kHz (or multiples thereof) . . . .

Agree totally here - 48 or 96 kHz or higher for DVD and 48, 96 or 192 kHz  for BD are the standard bitrates for audio.

If you are burning to DVD or BD then you cannot set an audio rate less than 48 kHz

CD audio bitrate standard is 44.1 kHz.

However I consider this a bug - either in the programming or in the message itself - you still get the error message when there is nothing on the timeline and you add the timecode.

Perhaps, if it is by design, the message  should say 'The project audio settings are incorrect for this plugin to display correctly' .

@Jelstudio

Why are you setting the audio bitrate to 44.1 kHz?

If you are concerned about the file size on export, the audio is a small fraction of the total file size the video being the much larger part

If you are making VideoCD then any bitrate adjustments to the audio are taken care of automatically.

John EB

I wonder?  Not wishing to be "provocative" but audio for video is most commonly at 48kHz (or multiples thereof).  I suspect the timecode plug-in uses the sample frequency of the audio, together with the frame rate of the video, to create its display.  So, if the audio is not running at the "expected" sample frequency the plug-in cannot generate its data.

Perhaps a limitation of the code used for the plug-in (by design?) and not a bug?

I suppose that is possible. I tried other audio-rates and none other than 48kHz worked.

However, on the preview-window the time-display always works (the display that shows above the preview-screen), so at least we know MEP includes code that can calculate correct time at other audio-rates than 48kHz, and I would think it would be odd if they programmed the timecode-display (the one you can burn into your video) to be more limited in usefulness, but who knows :)

Why are you setting the audio bitrate to 44.1 kHz?

If you are concerned about the file size on export, the audio is a small fraction of the total file size the video being the much larger part

If you are making VideoCD then any bitrate adjustments to the audio are taken care of automatically.

John EB

Because I make music-videos for youtube from master audio-tracks that are at 44kHz and I want to minimize artifacts introduced by re-sampling to different frequencies ( see more about resampling here: http://www.voxengo.com/product/r8brainpro/ )

Because I make music-videos for youtube from master audio-tracks that are at 44kHz and I want to minimize artifacts introduced by re-sampling to different frequencies ( see more about resampling here: http://www.voxengo.com/product/r8brainpro/ )

But the actual process of converting 44.1 to 48kHz, despite what you might read and assuming you are using a high quality SRC, makes virtually NO difference to the quality of the audio!  In effect, what you are doing is increasing the upper frequency limit of the audio from 22.05kHz to 24kHz, a VERY SMALL pitch difference in terms of musical notes.  Unless you are a dog (no offence intended) or, perhaps a bat, you are not going to hear ANY difference at all!  That range is outside the frequency that humans can hear, even when a baby; the additional samples created will ALL be "silence" (digital zeroes).  I really do not see how that can in any way affect the quality of the resulting sound.

Also, given that you are designing these videos for YT, which in and of itself does at least some down-sampling/converting of both the audio and video streams, even accepting that you want the original to be as high quality as possible, I think you do not need to worry about 44.1 v 48kHz!

I don't know how well MEP converts sample-rate, but since the original audio-files I use are 44.1kHz and youtube audio is also 44.1kHz it just makes more sense to me to keep everything at the same rate from start to finish :) I just prefer it that way :)

But the actual process of converting 44.1 to 48kHz, despite what you might read and assuming you are using a high quality SRC, makes virtually NO difference to the quality of the audio! 
 

Hi

. . . .youtube audio is also 44.1kHz . . . . .

As you are making music videos, the Youtube recommendations for audio do not apply -  you must use the Youtube recommendations for video - ie the audio sample rate is 48 or 96 kHz - see here .

John EB