Video Clips shows on Timeline but Some disappear in exporting

olub20 wrote on 12/15/2014, 1:06 PM

MEP 2014 I have been racking my brain trying to figure out how to fix the problem. When I look at my video clips in timeline everything shows. However when I look at it movie preview it keep missing of my clips it just shows blank with no clip there. When I export it of course its the same. It shows the text I placed there but no video clip. Please help me asap cause I have this video to submit by tomorrow.

 

Shows correct on timeline.

See the preview box? Its not showing the above clip and this is how it exports. Without the two other clips. 

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terrypin wrote on 12/16/2014, 1:02 AM

 

See the preview box? Its not showing the above clip and this is how it exports. Without the two other clips. 

I'm sure others too would like to help, as I would, but I just don't follow what you mean. What is the 'above clip'? What are you expecting to see in the monitor and what are you actually seeing? What is on every track at the current position (not all are visible in your screenshot)?

You also need to ensure your screenshot is fully readable. I tried to make out the detail of the thumbnails under the timeline marker but gave up. The MAGIX.info site offers poor resolution so if you can't get good results that way (perhaps by zooming in and cropping) then upload the high res image capture to a hosting site such as Dropbox and give us the link.

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terrypin wrote on 1/9/2015, 4:02 AM

We never heard any more from you about your apparently urgent problem nearly four weeks ago.

Feedback is always appreciated, and it helps others who may have a similar question.

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olub20 wrote on 3/26/2015, 2:26 PM

Hello Terrypin,

 

Sorry I didn't update. Cause it all of sudden started working. However I have the problem again.

 

Basically when I export the video some of my clips are missing. There are sectons in which I have a collage of clips but only one clip shows in the exported version. When I look at it in the timeline its there but when you view the entire video once it has been exported it is missing some of the clips. 

olub20 wrote on 3/26/2015, 2:30 PM

Also the second screenshot I sent is when I go to Files, Settings-Movie-Project Settings then go under preview and look at it through "use preview image from movie" it doesnt show the collage of clips it only shows one clip from th video collage

terrypin wrote on 3/27/2015, 3:07 AM

In my reply 3½ months ago I asked you to fully clarify what you meant but you still haven't done that. I'll give it one more try but then I'm out.

1. In your subject heading you imply that the issue is a difference between what you see on the timeline and the final export respectively. But in your original post you say that the difference is between your timeline and your movie preview. Which is it? (Obviously if the preview is wrong, the export will be too.)

2. As I asked in my first reply "What are you expecting to see in the monitor and what are you actually seeing? What is on every track at the current position (not all are visible in your screenshot)?"

3. Or are there actually only three tracks? Stills would have removed ambiguity. As it stands, it's impossible for us to know what frame is being displayed under the orange marker in your screenshot.

4. Your track usage is confusing matters. It's standard practice to place your main video in track #1 with audio usually in track #2 and text in track #3. And it's also a good idea to be consistent as you move along the timeline.

5. What is the source of the red text in your preview monitor? There are no text objects visible on the timeline at that point. So either it's embedded in one of your video clips or (going back to my crucial question 2) there are more than three tracks.

6. Obviously I'm therefore guessing at this stage, but one possibility is that the problem is caused by one of the several bugs with collages in MEP 2014 (and earlier versions) that I've reported over the past few years. Which collage are you using? For example, sometimes one or more tracks in the collage are 'invisibly muted'.

We could pursue that and other possibilities if you provide a less confusing problem description. To help with that it would be better to use still images instead of video clips. And when working with collages of three or more objects it can help to be methodical. Here are 16 numbered still images you can use in preparing a better problem statement.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/16WideImages.zip

7. Alternatively (or in parallel) you could make a small, non-confidential project exhibiting the problem (again, keeping it as simple as possible). Then use File > Backup > Copy project and media into a folder, zip it up and upload it to a host site. (I use Dropbox for instance.) Thet we can see what you mean and maybe try to reproduce it.

Hopefully we'll hear back from you in less than 3½ months!

 

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olub20 wrote on 3/31/2015, 2:51 PM

In my reply 3½ months ago I asked you to fully clarify what you meant but you still haven't done that. I'll give it one more try but then I'm out.

1. In your subject heading you imply that the issue is a difference between what you see on the timeline and the final export respectively. But in your original post you say that the difference is between your timeline and your movie preview. Which is it? (Obviously if the preview is wrong, the export will be too.) The export and timeline

2. As I asked in my first reply "What are you expecting to see in the monitor and what are you actually seeing? What is on every track at the current position (not all are visible in your screenshot)?" I will show it bigger in screenshot

3. Or are there actually only three tracks? Stills would have removed ambiguity. As it stands, it's impossible for us to know what frame is being displayed under the orange marker in your screenshot.

4. Your track usage is confusing matters. It's standard practice to place your main video in track #1 with audio usually in track #2 and text in track #3. And it's also a good idea to be consistent as you move along the timeline. When I drag my tracks down to the timeline it doesn't separate the audio shows it as one track. How do i show the distinction? 

5. What is the source of the red text in your preview monitor? There are no text objects visible on the timeline at that point. So either it's embedded in one of your video clips or (going back to my crucial question 2) there are more than three tracks.

6. Obviously I'm therefore guessing at this stage, but one possibility is that the problem is caused by one of the several bugs with collages in MEP 2014 (and earlier versions) that I've reported over the past few years. Which collage are you using? For example, sometimes one or more tracks in the collage are 'invisibly muted'. I might have this problem. If it is invisibly muted will it not show those muted tracks in the exported version? How do I fix and avoid "invisibly muted" tracks.

We could pursue that and other possibilities if you provide a less confusing problem description. To help with that it would be better to use still images instead of video clips. And when working with collages of three or more objects it can help to be methodical. Here are 16 numbered still images you can use in preparing a better problem statement.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/16WideImages.zip

7. Alternatively (or in parallel) you could make a small, non-confidential project exhibiting the problem (again, keeping it as simple as possible). Then use File > Backup > Copy project and media into a folder, zip it up and upload it to a host site. (I use Dropbox for instance.) Thet we can see what you mean and maybe try to reproduce it.

Hopefully we'll hear back from you in less than 3½ months!

 

 

olub20 wrote on 3/31/2015, 2:56 PM

Here the screenshots of my problem. Please let me know if still confusing. Im still learning MEP so I dont know the exact way to explain what problems I have with it. 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uEXAKGH954wzOQcFDtp6QnlFgIeeRHVdOXMWvaziZ18/edit?usp=sharing

terrypin wrote on 3/31/2015, 4:42 PM

Hi,

 

Are you using only four tracks? If so I don't see how you managed to get even this far, as even the simplest collages need more. Switch to 16 by pressing the 'E' key to get your project settings:

 

You still haven't told us which collage you used. Or have I misunderstood and you're not using one of the built-in collages, just editing manually using Size/Position?

Here is what my timeline looks like to produce the sort of result I think you're seeking. Note that for clarity  I've used four of the the numbered images I sent you in my last post.

Higher res: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/MEP-Simple4ObjectCollage.jpg

 

If neither of the above suggestions solves your problem then follow the instructions in point 7 of my last post.

 

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olub20 wrote on 4/6/2015, 1:54 PM

Hi,

 

Are you using only four tracks? If so I don't see how you managed to get even this far, as even the simplest collages need more. Switch to 16 by pressing the 'E' key to get your project settings:

 

You still haven't told us which collage you used. Or have I misunderstood and you're not using one of the built-in collages, just editing manually using Size/Position?

Here is what my timeline looks like to produce the sort of result I think you're seeking. Note that for clarity  I've used four of the the numbered images I sent you in my last post.

Higher res: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4019461/MEP-Simple4ObjectCollage.jpg

 

If neither of the above suggestions solves your problem then follow the instructions in point 7 of my last post.

 

Yes I am not using the collage I am just editing manually size/position. Is it best to use the collage? I like to manually do it because I find it easier to size it how I like. I check my program settings and it was already on 16. So I see ou have yours layerd behind each other. I had mine layered right under each other.

What do you mean by overscan?

terrypin wrote on 4/7/2015, 7:53 AM
Yes I am not using the collage I am just editing manually size/position. Is it best to use the collage? I like to manually do it because I find it easier to size it how I like. I check my program settings and it was already on 16. So I see ou have yours layerd behind each other. I had mine layered right under each other.

 

My four images get displayed successively, yours simultaneously.

What do you mean by overscan?

That was just a note in case you thought the white rectangle was relevant to the discussion. Googling 'TV overscan' displays over 300,000 hits.

Repeating my earlier point: "If neither of the above suggestions solves your problem then follow the instructions in point 7 of my last post."

 

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olub20 wrote on 4/22/2015, 1:02 AM
Yes I am not using the collage I am just editing manually size/position. Is it best to use the collage? I like to manually do it because I find it easier to size it how I like. I check my program settings and it was already on 16. So I see ou have yours layerd behind each other. I had mine layered right under each other.

 

My four images get displayed successively, yours simultaneously.

What do you mean by overscan?

That was just a note in case you thought the white rectangle was relevant to the discussion. Googling 'TV overscan' displays over 300,000 hits.

Repeating my earlier point: "If neither of the above suggestions solves your problem then follow the instructions in point 7 of my last post."

 

Thank you. 

olub20 wrote on 4/22/2015, 1:02 AM
Yes I am not using the collage I am just editing manually size/position. Is it best to use the collage? I like to manually do it because I find it easier to size it how I like. I check my program settings and it was already on 16. So I see ou have yours layerd behind each other. I had mine layered right under each other.

 

My four images get displayed successively, yours simultaneously.

What do you mean by overscan?

That was just a note in case you thought the white rectangle was relevant to the discussion. Googling 'TV overscan' displays over 300,000 hits.

Repeating my earlier point: "If neither of the above suggestions solves your problem then follow the instructions in point 7 of my last post."

 

I'll try it out. Thank you.