Video is slightly lagging behind Audio

Michael-OCallaghan wrote on 3/8/2019, 5:37 PM

Before I import the video its working perfectly as video should, everything is in sink. But after I added a watermark to the video and then rendered it, the audio is slightly in the front of the video. I didn't know how to rectify this problem so I came here in the hope there is an answer.

 

Thanks.

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CubeAce wrote on 3/8/2019, 6:29 PM

@Michael-OCallaghan

If you right-click the offending audio track you will get a list of things you can do. Select 'Set audio-video offset' from the dropdown list and you will get a box that allows the audio to be pushed forwards or backward along the timeline at one frame at a time if needed until the audio is in sync with the video.

 

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johnebaker wrote on 3/9/2019, 3:58 AM

@Michael-OCallaghan

Hi

. . . . I import the video its working perfectly as video should, everything is in sink . . . after I added a watermark to the video and then rendered it, the audio is slightly in the front of the video. . . .

What happens if you export without adding the watermark - is the audio/video still in sync?

Try selecting all the video clips and right click one of them - from the pop-out menu select Create (new) frametable and then export again.

HTH

John EB

 

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Michael-OCallaghan wrote on 3/9/2019, 8:42 AM

Hello lads

As its my first time using Magix Video Editor I'm a bit green, so I'll have to ask CubeAce where is the audio file located as I pulled down the video track to track one and then put my logo on track two below it stretching it out so its the same length as the video, but I didn't know there was an audio track somewhere there as well.

I'm sure the question sounds a bit dumb, but I've never edited a video before I bought this software. (got top start somewhere)

 

johnebaker

(What happens if you export without adding the watermark - is the audio/video still in sync?)

To be honest I don't know but I will have a look and let you know.

CubeAce wrote on 3/9/2019, 8:56 AM

@Michael-OCallaghan

Hi Micheal.

Right click the video track and it should bring up a list. Chose 'Audio and Video on separate tracks' to split them for editing.

Ray.

 

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Michael-OCallaghan wrote on 3/9/2019, 10:07 AM

Hi Ray

I did that and tried to 'Set audio-video offset' to re-aline the two, but its more difficult than it looks, just can't seem to bring them together. The anoying thing is I did several videos with my logo a couple of days ago without these problems showing up. They just started when I went back to the software yesterday morning.

Michael.

johnebaker wrote on 3/9/2019, 10:55 AM

@Michael-OCallaghan

Hi

Did you try the Create (new) frametable and export as I suggested above.

You may not be able to depending on the type of sync loss you have ie:

  1. A constant time discrepancy
     
  2. A time discrepancy increasing with time at a regular rate eg at 10 secs the difference is 2 frames and at 20 sec 4 frames etc.

The video offset will fix item 1, however if the issue is item 2 then that is a different ball game where the offset is not applicable.

If the out of sync is increasing with time then a likely cause is that you are using a video source which is probably NTSC at 29.97 fps and are exporting at 25, 30 fps.

We need more information on your source video, the export settings you are using and an analysis of the source video clip using MediaInfo - post the results from the Text view.

John EB

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CubeAce wrote on 3/9/2019, 12:31 PM

@Michael-OCallaghan

Hi Michael.

The reason John is suggesting to use 'Create new frametable' is because it's like an edge number on old 35mm film giving each frame a postition on the timeline. It gives the program reading the file checkpoints to keep the audio and video in sync. Sometimes if the frametable gets out of sync with itself because editing sometimes disrupts the existing frametable and that the program that subsequently opens and reads the file for playback may skip or miss playing frames as it goes along, making the sound go further and further out of synchronisation.

The reason for requesting the files parameters using mediainfo is to see if there is anything unusual about the source file that maybe MEP has problems handling.

I've just noticed you said the audio is ahead of the video, not behind it so maybe adding the watermark has affected it somehow. I assume the watermark is running the length of the video and on a separate track. Would it also be possible to put up a screenshot of the project showing the clip timeline?

I ask because normally if a frametable is corrupted, the sound lags behind the video, not ahead of it.

Ray.

 

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