Video Pro X11 on old PC

discburn wrote on 4/24/2020, 10:15 AM

I'm still using Video Pro X6 on my Dell T5500. Recently upgraded to Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, here's the spec: Video Pro X6, Dell Precision T5500,  Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, Intel Xeon X5650 @ 2.67GHz and 2.66HGHz (2 processors),  48 GB RAM,  M-Audio Delta 1010LT,  NVIDIA Quadro 4000.

Video Pro X10 never ran well on my Windows 7 version. After several posts about that here, the conclusion was that my graphics card and processors were just not up to the mark for Magix type processing.

I'm wondering if the new Video Pro X11, with its super-duper speeds, will be able to run on my 'old' machine? Or will it produce the same stuttering results as soon as I apply an effect or colour grade?

Thanks in advance,

Seamus

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Scenestealer wrote on 4/24/2020, 4:24 PM

@discburn

Hi Seamus

From memory we decided that your older Xeon did not have some of the newer processor instructions that Magix use for the 16bit colour corrections so you would likely be in the same boat with VPX11. It might even be worse as Magix try to utilise the latest hardware / technology improvements. Maybe the trial version might illustrate something for you?

Peter

System Specs: Intel 6th Gen i7 6700K 4Ghz O.C.4.6GHz, Asus Z170 Pro Gaming MoBo, 16GB DDR4 2133Mhz RAM, Samsung 850 EVO 512GB SSD system disc WD Black 4TB HDD Video Storage, Nvidia GTX1060 OC 6GB, Win10 Pro 2004, MEP2016, 2022 (V21.0.1.92) Premium and prior, VPX7, VPX12 (V18.0.1.85). Microsoft Surface Pro3 i5 4300U 1.9GHz Max 2.6Ghz, HDGraphics 4400, 4GB Ram 128GB SSD + 64GB Strontium Micro SD card, Win 10Pro 2004, MEP2015 Premium.

CubeAce wrote on 4/24/2020, 5:43 PM

@discburn

Hi Seamus.

I would have to agree with your own and Peter's assessment. It's missing the two essential elements that Pro-X or MEP needs to run well. Even the DDR3 is maybe below par? It's a pity for what is in every other aspect, a nice system. Would be great as a music DAW.

Ray.

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Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

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Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

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discburn wrote on 4/25/2020, 1:50 AM

Thank, Peter and Ray.

Yes, I'm using Samplitude Pro X3, plus a host of other audio programs on my Dell T5500. I mainly use VPX6 for burning discs, as I’ve had to go to another editor/grader for complex video work. I’m sure I could also use my VPX10 for disc burning. Might try that.

I did eventually buy a Microsoft Surface Book 2 13” for mobile work. It has the highest processing ability in the model range, so I might put VPX10 on it.

Technology sure changes fast now. Probably 5 years into anything requires an upgrade. Thanks for your support in these matters!

Seamus

CubeAce wrote on 4/25/2020, 5:25 AM

@discburn

Hi Seamus.

I would think you would need the i7 model for the UHD support with the 16gig of ram or i5 with a ram upgrade and at least a 500gig hard drive for enough working space for the program. Both graphics cards on offer seem reasonable.

My experience with full-sized SDXC cards (UHS-II) is that you can read video from them or write to them but not reliably do both at once, even using the fastest of those types of cards. The USB-C port would be a good port to use for additional drive support although the others should suffice.

Ray.

 

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

discburn wrote on 4/25/2020, 6:50 AM

Hi Ray,

I actually bought the i7 model with 16GB Ram and 1TB hard drive. So I presume that will keep Video Pro X happy for a while! I'm still a 1080p man at the moment, although I have a camera can shoot 4K.

Seamus

CubeAce wrote on 4/25/2020, 7:15 AM

Hi Seamus.

Good choice.

I would think that should work just fine. Let us know how it goes. I would recommend getting an external SSD for it to load working projects to if you can. Doesn't have to be that large or that fast but should help if playback still seems a bit sluggish but 1080p shouldn't present a problem at all. Will probably cope with 4K quite well too.

If you do have further problems do come back.

Happy editing.

Ray.

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 4/25/2020, 7:16 AM

@CubeAce

Hi Ray

. . . . My experience with full-sized SDXC cards (UHS-II) . . . read video . . . write . . . . both not reliably at once . . . . .

What is the context of wanting to use SDXC cards?

John EB

 

 

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