Video Project Template to test

Reyfox wrote on 3/1/2022, 3:34 AM

Users come asking what hardware will give them the best performance with the software. I think that is a valid question to ask because there are differing opinions on the subject based on personal usage of hardware.

I am a neophyte with the software. I can edit and do what I want when needed, but I do not have the long term skills/yunderstand that others here have. In Vegas Pro forum, there is a "standard" of sorts test that everyone can run and see where their PC hardware ranks in the scheme of things. It gives users some sort of baseline to see how different components/combinations perform. It's not speculation, but actual test runs done by the users and reported. I think this would go a long ways in helping new people and people considering upgrading their hardware.

 

 

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AAProds wrote on 3/1/2022, 3:57 AM

@Reyfox

I think that would be a great idea. The source files could be zipped up and distributed. It would necessarily be pretty big to get meaningful export times, if Magix is talking about 5 times real time encoding, you'd need a project of at least 5 minutes, otherwise things might happen too fast. 5 minutes of UHD is going to be pretty hefty.

An issue may be how to get effects to work; you'd have to rely on the project using the effects already installed on each computer.

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Magix Video Deluxe 2026 Ultimate (although it comes up as "Premium").

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 Home Version 2009

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

Movie Studio 2023

Movie Studio 2024

VPX 12

Reyfox wrote on 3/1/2022, 4:10 AM

@AAProds yes, the project has to have "stock" effects/titles/etc. As for video files, I would opt of 4K mp4. And since MEP can't handle 10bit, they would have to be 8bit 4:2:0 files.

Third party plugins would have to be exempt. The project would have to be sort of challenging to stress the computer.

In Pinnacle Studio, you can create a project package that you can share with anyone that will have all the project settings and put the assets on the timeline. I'm not sure that there is anything like in MEP.

As I wrote, I am not qualified to create the project. Someone with more knowledge than I would have to create this project.

johnebaker wrote on 3/1/2022, 5:37 AM

@Reyfox

Hi

. . . .  In Vegas Pro forum, there is a "standard" of sorts test that everyone can run and see where their PC hardware ranks in the scheme of things. . . . .

The Vegas test project is a baseline test and does not push/utilise CPU/GPU components to a high degree which is, IMO, necessary to get a more realistic performance data with programs such as Movie Studio, Video Pro X.

I agree with the need for a 'standard' test project, ideally the Demo project would have been useful, however it is not a realistic example to use as the video clips are very low resolution (512 x 288) and importing/exporting does not put any significant load on the system - on my PC it takes 11s for H.264 at the original video resolution and framerate, and 25s upscaling to 1080p both using the RTX 2060.

@CubeAce uploaded one of his experimental projects for testing which truly stressed high end spec PC's, lower end PCs would struggle to just to load the project.

A point of importance is the test project must be suitable for running on the trial version of the software, this would introduce some restrictions on what effects etc could be used in a test project - my own thoughts on what is needed are:

  • Project length 1 minute
  • Source video 1920x x1080p h.264 25/30 fps
  • Intro title and outro credits (scrolling?)
  • Transitions - cut, crossfade, fade through
  • Effects: Brightness/Contrast, Sharpening, Collage (basic), Keyframed animation eg fly in/out, rotation
  • Export settings: 1080p, h.264, 25/30fps

A 4K UHD version of above may also be useful.

John EB

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VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Reyfox wrote on 3/1/2022, 6:05 AM

@johnebaker while the Vegas test doesn't push everything to the limit, it is there to show what various configured computers can do. It's better than nothing and anyone can run it.

I don't know the specifics of "what" will trigger either the GPU or CPU in exporting the finished video or how smooth the timeline will play back a particular project without proxies.

AAProds wrote on 3/1/2022, 5:34 PM

Ha. I've started making up a test project. I dragged a 3d text thingee onto the timeline and MEP froze immediately. Required a Task Manager kill. I guess I'll try some other text. 😎

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Magix Video Deluxe 2026 Ultimate (although it comes up as "Premium").

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 Home Version 2009

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

Movie Studio 2023

Movie Studio 2024

VPX 12