Videowandler 2 issues...

Sami-Pekonmki wrote on 4/18/2025, 10:54 AM

Hello. I am trying to connect my camcorder for use with Video Saver 8. I have the red and white USB and I used a guide found here to manually install the drivers through device manager and selecting the .inf file for it. It now shows properly as 'MAGIX USB-VIdeowandler 2', however it still does not show up as a video source even though I have my camcorder attached to the AV inputs provided with the DVD and is in play mode. I have attempted to reinstall drivers.

I am running Windows 10.

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johnebaker wrote on 4/18/2025, 1:58 PM

@Sami-Pekonmki

Hi

Check in Windows 10 Settings, in the Find a setting search box type:

Camera

From the options that appear select Choose which apps can access your camera, then check Allow Desktop apps to access your camera is turned on.

Repeat the same procedure for the Microphone option as well.

HTH

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Sami-Pekonmki wrote on 4/22/2025, 1:51 AM

Those settings are already turned on.

Also, the USB does not light up when connected, if that is a problem. The camcorder comes with a mono AV cable, with yellow and black connectors, rather than yellow, red, and white.

emmrecs wrote on 4/22/2025, 4:04 AM

@Sami-Pekonmki

The camcorder comes with a mono AV cable, with yellow and black connectors, rather than yellow, red, and white.

That mono cable might be the source of the problem!

The USB dongle will expect a single video input (usually the yellow socket) and two (stereo) audio inputs, Red (stereo right) and White (stereo left). Have you tried connecting the yellow plug to the yellow socket and then the black plug to either the Red or White socket?

Does your camera have only this "mono" output? If so, this is very unusual (IME) or the camera is rather old. Can you tell us exactly which make and model of camera this is?

In your first post you say I have my camcorder attached to the AV inputs provided with the DVD. What do you mean about the DVD? Are you connecting the camera directly to the USB dongle? Mention of a DVD might suggest you are connecting the camera to a DVD player and then connecting the player to the dongle.

You also mention the USB does not light up. It is some time since I used a Magix USB Video Convertor dongle but I have no memory of it "lighting up".

Sorry for all the questions but we really do want to help you!

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Sami-Pekonmki wrote on 4/22/2025, 5:14 AM

Thank you for the really fast response.

I bought another cable with all 3 connectors but it had a stupid problem with the plastic cover on the connector being too thick to fit in the small slot that the AV input was in. I tried connecting the black cable to the white slot.

By DVD I mean I have the physical copy of the software. It came with input cables for the videowandler.

The camera is JVC GR-DVL108E

emmrecs wrote on 4/22/2025, 5:33 AM

@Sami-Pekonmki

Thank you for the additional information. Every little helps!

A quick search on your camera model led to this page from the manual. I assume, from what you write, that you do not have the AV to 3 x Phono (RCA) cable that the manual says is supplied with the camera?

It's not clear from the manual what is the pin configuration for the socket on the camera but I wonder whether something like this lead might be what you need? Or is that, or something similar, what you already have and it doesn't fit?

Can you show an image of the plug that you're connecting to the camera, such that the number of connectors it has are visible? I notice the one that is at that linked Amazon page is four-pole, which is what I would expect to see.

Jeff

 

EDIT, to add: this cable claims to be a direct replacement for the one that originally came with your camera. Any good for you?

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AAProds wrote on 4/22/2025, 6:04 AM

@Sami-Pekonmki

My comments are based on this manual.

Sami, do you by any chance, have a DV/Firewire port on your computer? That camcorder appears to be miniDV and the best transfer is via Firewire.

Regarding the video signal, you would get better quality using an S-Video cable from your camcorder to the Wandler instead of the yellow Composite connector cable. The socket for that is at the bottom of the socket group.

Re the audio, I think you've been dudded with that yellow+black cable. The camcorder originally came with a three-RCA plug cable (as you have just bought) but with a right-angled bend on the 3.5mm end, probably to help it fit into the top socket.

In any case, you should get video even if the audio is not connected.

I know you said you used the INF file to install the wandler but did you also follow the Magix procedure here?

Is it on this screen that you can't select the Wandler?:

also, check you have the correct system set (PAL or NTSC):

 

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2025

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

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Sami-Pekonmki wrote on 4/22/2025, 11:14 AM

I can't find such a cable, and this is indeed an old camcorder. I don't have a firewire port on my PC either, and those firewire cards for the motherboard seem really expensive. I have a USB-C connector, however. I don't know much about how well adapters work in this case. The ones people online recommend seem to be Thunderbolt (and therefore only for Mac computers?)

I did try the "normal" procedure for installing the drivers before doing it with the inf file, however it did not help. The stick was still registering as an unknown USB-device.

No, I can not select the Wandler in the program. As for setting PAL/NTSC, it was set correctly as PAL (Finland).

I could try S-Video, however then there is the problem of recording the audio.

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emmrecs wrote on 4/22/2025, 1:40 PM

@Sami-Pekonmki

I can't find such a cable

Do you mean, either of the cables I linked to in my earlier post? I realise you are in Finland and they were listed on the Amazon UK site but I would have assumed you have access to be able to purchase one?

I don't know much about how well adapters work in this case

Generally speaking, they don't, (work, that is)! They really are not worth even considering.

The stick was still registering as an unknown USB-device.

Then it would seem the all-important drivers are not installed. Have you checked that you actually have installed the latest drivers as listed on this page?

I assume you see the unknown USB device message in Device Manager? If so, have you tried right-clicking on it there and choosing Update driver? Then choose the option to "Browse my computer for drivers" and navigate to wherever you have the driver install files saved. Be very careful which driver Windows says it will install (if it can find one); it needs to be clearly the specific Magix one.

I agree, S-video is not really a solution unless you can also have a separate audio feed. But I think it also requires that the drivers are correctly installed!

Jeff

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AAProds wrote on 4/22/2025, 8:26 PM

@Sami-Pekonmki @emmrecs

I could try S-Video, however then there is the problem of recording the audio.

S-video is not really a solution unless you can also have a separate audio feed. 

Just use the audio (red and white plugs) from the 3-plug Composite A/V cable and connect to the red and white sockets on the Wandler. Works well and is the standard method of capturing analogue video if S-Video is available.

You have definitely been scammed with that black cable. That is not the A/V cable for your camcorder. You need the one linked to by Jeff here. Have a look at the cable on the bottom-right of page 4 of the manual I linked to. That's the type you need.

Re Firewire cards, I have an extensive description of the process on my website here. It is the recommended method of transferring video from MiniDV camcorders.

But, back to your current situation, some more things to try:

-Do a Windows Restart (as opposed to a "shutdown" and then a start up); that might clear up any glitches;

-Download the latest version of the VideoSaver/Videoeasy software from your Magix account; uninstall Videosaver and the Wandler from Device Manager and reinstall the VideoSaver program. @johnebaker recommends using Revo Uninstaller for getting rid of any remnants.

 

All my forum comments are based on or refer to my System 1.

My struggle is over! I built my (now) system 2 in 2011 when DV was king and MPEG 2 was just coming onto the scene and I needed a more powerful system to cope. Since then we've advanced to MP4 and to bigger and bigger resolutions. I was really suffering, not so much in editing (with proxies) but in encoding, which just took ages. A video, with Neat Video noise reduction applied, would encode at 12% of film speed. My new system 1 does the same job at 160% of film speed. Marvellous. I'm keeping my old system as a capture station for analogue video tapes and DV.

System 1

Windows 11 v23H2 severely modified by Openshell and ExplorerPatcher

Power supply: 850W Cooler Master (should have got modular)

CPU: Intel i7 13700K running at 3400mhz, cooled by a Kraken 2x140mm All In One liquid cooler.

RAM: 64gb (2x32gb sticks) G.Skill "Ripjaws" DDR4 3200Mhz

GPU 1: iGPU UHD 770

GPU 2: NVidia RTX 3060Ti Windforce 8gb

C drive: NVME 500gb

Bluray Burner: Pioneer BDR-212D

Various other SSD and HDDs.

Monitor: 27"/68cm Samsung, 2560 x 1440, 43 pixels/cm.

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2025

Magix Video Easy version 7.0.1.145

System 2

(Still in use for TV and videotape capture)

Windows 10 v22H2

CPU: i5-750 at 2670mhz with 12gb RAM

Onboard IEEE1394 (Firewire) port

GPU: ATI Radeon HD 4770 (512mb) which is ignored by MEP

Hard drives: C Drive 256gb SSD, various other HDDs.

Monitor: Dell 22"/56cm, 1680x1050, 35 pixels/cm

MEP 2021 version 20.0.1.80

Movie Studio 2023 version 22.0.3.172

VPX 12