Viewing top Video camera track. VPX defaulting to show lower track

Craigster wrote on 3/20/2020, 4:47 PM

In past versions of VPX, if having multiple video tracks, it defaulted to show the highest video track in the View Window. For more than a year, I'm experiencing the opposite: whatever track is Lowest (vertically) defaults to show on the view window. This is irritating to me. Are others getting this result? Is there a way to change this default? I'm not aware.

Specifically, I have a Camera 1 recording on Track 3 (audio on 4). And a Camera 2 recording on Track 5 (audio on 6). Currrently in Standard mode. Prepping prior to going into Multi-track mode. I just expect to see Camera 1 (track 3) unless I mute the visual. But I get the opposite result, of VPX (latest version) defaulting to show Camera 2 (Track 5) unless I mute it.

Ideas?

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browj2 wrote on 3/20/2020, 5:40 PM

@Craigster

Hi,

No! If you are not in multicam mode you have always seen the object, video or photo, on the highest numbered track that is not turned off. When you go into multicam, the video clips on all tracks except track 1 are turned off. This is the protocol for VPX and MEP and always has been.

Put a video or photo on track 1. Create a title. It will be on a track with a higher number than the video. Can you see the title? Move the video or photo to a track with a higher number than the title. You don't see the title anymore,

In Vegas, it is the inverse.

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Craigster wrote on 3/20/2020, 5:46 PM

@Craigster

Hi,

No! If you are not in multicam mode you have always seen the object, video or photo, on the highest numbered track that is not turned off.

Right. This is what I am saying I have previously experienced and expect to be normal behavior. I am getting the opposite. With no tracks turned off, the bottom track steals the preview monitor (rather than the top). I don't know how to return this to normal behavior.

I'm able to work upside down. It's just counter-intuitive for me.

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browj2 wrote on 3/20/2020, 6:31 PM

@Craigster

By bottom track, I presume that you mean lower down on the screen, thus a higher numbered track. If you have a video on track 1 and another on track 3, you will see the video on track 3, not track 1,

If you place cards one on top of another, the first one is card 1 or track 1, card 2 like track 2 covers it up, so you don't see card 1. That is the protocol.

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emmrecs wrote on 3/21/2020, 4:49 AM

@Craigster

Just to confirm everything that @browj2 has written.

It has always been the case that "higher-numbered" tracks (= lower down the timeline screen) are visible above "lower-numbered" tracks (= higher up the timeline screen).

HTH

Jeff

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johnebaker wrote on 3/21/2020, 5:10 AM

@Craigster

Hi

To clarify - are you referring to what you are seeing when in Multicam mode or normal viewing mode?

If Multicam then the look at which track is selected - is it camera 2?

You set the starting camera, ie camera 1 by clicking, on it in the Source monitor before starting playback and then proceeding with multi cam editing.

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RogerGunkel wrote on 3/21/2020, 7:11 AM

@Craigster

Hi Jeff,

Having been a user of various versions of MEP and VPX for many years,I can also confirm what others are saying, that the lower track on the screen always shows unless turned off. Perhaps you could attach a full screen grab, to show us what you are seeing.

Roger

Craigster wrote on 3/21/2020, 4:28 PM

@Craigster

By bottom track, I presume that you mean lower down on the screen, thus a higher numbered track. If you have a video on track 1 and another on track 3, you will see the video on track 3, not track 1,

If you place cards one on top of another, the first one is card 1 or track 1, card 2 like track 2 covers it up, so you don't see card 1. That is the protocol.

Ah, Sure enough. I misread you.

Yes, I meant lower down the screen, vs. higher up the screen (which I realize runs opposite of numbering sequence.)

This is very helpful, as is your analogy.

(I have just come back to using Multi-Cam mode, which I haven't had need of for a few years. Perhaps that's what I was remembering previously, where the top 2 tracks, i.e. 1&2, are what is shown. I think it was intuitive to me that this ordering would continue to follow. So, I tend to put my primary camera (Cam 1) on track 3, and my secondary camera beneath (Cam 2 - track 5). And have wondered why my Secondary Camera keeps showing. So, for me to put my Cam 1 beneath my Cam 2 feels counter-intuitive. Not a big deal. Thanks for the clarity regarding normal behavior.)

Glad to know all is actually working properly. I can alter my approach.

 

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