Welcome to the Magix Sound Forge forum @jethro-dunn/

SCS changed to a modal plug-in chainer starting with Pro 11, subsequent Magix versions (Pro 12, 13 &14), are basically the same. (FWIW, I questioned this change whilst beta testing Pro 11 but SCS (Sony) was not responsive)

That said, If you would like the chainer to function similar to Pro 10 and prior versions, Select the 'Fx Favorites' menu and click "Apply Plug-in Chain" which has the 'Preview' and 'OK' (aka, Process Selection) buttons. Unfortunately, most plug-in automation is not possible in the "Apply Plug-in Chain" mode, including a volume envelope. Otherwise, the keyboard "V" key adds the volume envelope line to the plug-in chainer which appears on the timeline

The SF project file mode may be to your liking. (File> Save as, SF Project File <.frg>) and is non-destructive. When you are satisfied with your edits and such, select "Render as" to 'print' the file.

@Former user yeah... or lodge a support ticket to ask when they might bring it back as my SF 11.0 licence is "too old", apparently, to give me message sending privileges. TBH, having been on the Sound Forge ship since 2004-ish, if they ever change it so much that I *need* to read the manual, they will have made it of no use to me... most of what I do in it is muscle memory at this point. I couldn't tell you what the shortcuts are but my fingers know.

@rraud yeah I tried the Plug-in Chainer approach back in 11.0 when they dropped Process Selection. As you say, no automation so that's no use to me. Such a bizarre thing to take out.

Thanks for the replies... I won't bother with 14 then. All the cool kids use RX these days but IDK... I find it very slow compared to SF. Maybe I need to switch to Wavosaur.

Plug-in chainer automation works in the timeline mode, but you have to render the file or save as a SF project to continue at a later time. SCS should not have changed it in the first place IMO. They eliminated the remote record box as well and added extra steps which make recording less intuitive.

All the cool kids use RX these days but IDK... I find it very slow compared to SF. Maybe I need to switch to Wavosaur.

I don't think RX 7 supports VST3, if that matters.

Yeah... I was very used to the old record box too and ended up recording over things by mistake quite a few times... or recording in the wrong format because I expected it to pop up and ask me.

VST3 isn't really a thing for me in wave editor; If I need to apply actual effects or do anything complicated I'll open Reaper. Sound Forge for me is for making really fast edits to game assets opened directly from WWise. Editing out glitches at the sample level, apply volume envelopes to overly samples that I just cut a few seconds of tail off of and overly-long sound.

The project thing is cool but if I'm directly editing samples from another app then I can't be saving them all as something else first. I'm aware you can apply an envelope by saving and undo still works after the save if you get it wrong but there's a bug where you can't then make another volume envelope appear after undoing unless you reopen the file which was present in SF11 (just checked) and is still there in SF14 which makes undo working after a save a bit pointless. Fixing that would help.

Hi forum. Does anyone know if they've brought back the Process Selection button in SF Pro 14 so you can add a volume envelope and.. you know... just apply it with saving it as a plugin-chain first. I'll never understand why they took it out in SF11 :/

Has the "Process Selection" returned to SF 15?

Dunno. If anyone finds out I'd be vaguely interested to hear but I'm increasingly giving up Sound Forge, tbh. Most of my work department of around 18 audio designers have as well. We do most things in Reaper now and when we need a wave editor we use Wavosaur which is frankly better than Sound Forge these days. Starts in a fraction of the time. Has a volume envelope... and its free. It comes to something when freeware is better than the "Industry standard Pro" app costing hundreds of pounds. I'd hoped Magix would be the ones to undo SCS's failures at the end of their tenure and make SF great again but so far they've mostly just added invasive, slow online account verification that randomly fails and stops my staff from working. Sorry... that turned into a general SF rant and didn't answer your question.

@dnulf: "Has the "Process Selection" returned to SF 15?"

Returned? It has been the same since SFP-11. That was initially changed by Sony in Sound Forge Pro-11 (and subsequent versions). Single plug-ins work the same as in the legacy versions (SFP-10 and prior). To use the Fx chainer 'Process' mode (as in the legacy versions), select "FX Favorites> Apply plug-in chain"
Unfortunately, Fx automation only works in the non-destructve 'timeline Fx chainer. I will spare you my SFP-11 beta testing rant.

@jethro-dunn, I was initially expecting better from Magix as well. Use whatever floats yo' boat.

But I want Sound Forge to float my boat! Its been my trusty audio boat-floater since about 2003. I want it to be great again! Its like I don't recognise it any more. I used to bang on about it to students when teaching... "Don't open Logic! You can do that in sound forge in about 10 seconds!". Makes me sad. I guess I just need to move on... find a new wave editor to settle down with :'(