Has anyone used Video Pro X running under Windows 10 in a bootcamp partition on a PowerMac workstation? I am considering this type of installation but am leery of pitfalls. Thanks for any tips!
Kennt ihr jemanden, der eine VPX installation benutzt, in Windows 10, auf einem Macintosh? Ich wuerde so eine Installation bevorzugen, befuerchte aber unerwartete Macken. Vielen Dank im voraus fuer Tips!
(wuerde Magix so eine Installation unterstuetzen?)
Hi.
The first thing I noticed is you are a much longer Magix user than myself so I'm not sure I'm worthy of replying 😂.
Personally I would question the wisdom of such a move or experiment with a program designed to work well with higher level nvidia graphics cards. Even if you could run Windows 10 on such a machine I have no idea. You may be able to get it to run but will it be a good experience? I notice the newer models shipped with AMD cards and as good as they can be I think VPX works better with nvidia cards (although a few on the forums seem to be able to cope with using AMD cards) and the last Mac models I can look up the specs for seem to favour AMD.
I can't say for certain it won't work or it will work well. Interesting question though.
I would love to hear others thought on the subject.
Ray.
Hi
If the PowerMac workstation has an Intel processor with an integrated GPU of at least 5th generation, preferably a later, then VPX can run on a MAC computer, as both @geilosaurier and @Renter11 have commented in your post in the German forum.
I would also agree with @Renter11 in using VMWare rather than Parallels, technically Bootcamp would be the best option as VPX then has direct access to the hardware, Parallels would not be an option as it only creates 'virtual' hardware.
How well VPX will run depends on the version of VPX, the Intel processor generation, and if the MAC has an additional GPU eg AMD Radeon, which is compatiible.
HTH
John EB
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John and Ray, this is great information, thank you! In particular, I'm surprised about your comments regarding graphics cards. In correspondence with Magix three years ago (the project stalled for various reasons in 2019), regarding ideal configuration in a PC, I received the following response from Magix support:
3. With regards to the required PC specs:
A) CPU Speed and availability of a special bridge that speeds up video decoding is required. This is currently only built in for Intel processors(Quick Sync). Speed > more Cores.
More Information:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/quick-sync-video/quick-sync-video-general.html
B) GPU: not relevant since the encoding is running via CPU(at least if you use QuickSync)
Some current Nvidia cards support HVENC technology which is almost as good as QuickSync.
But seeing as this information is quite old (by computing standards), perhaps now the ideal configuration does involve the GPU choice? Or maybe I simply misunderstood? (What I took from this information was that the number of cores in the CPU is most relevant to performance, and the video card / GPU is irrelevant).
Anyway I greatly appreciate the tip about Nvidia cards.
I might as well add here that I hope to display to a 4K 3dTV, and that I'm working on a 4K (each eye) stereoscopic video project. Final output would be 7680x2160 for cinematic or dual-projector display, and 3840x2160 interleaved L/R for 4K 3dTV.
Hi.
Perhaps you should browse the history of the VPX development program to see how it has changed over the generations of the program. Particularly look at the June 03, 2019 update and onward.
While the program will run just using a CPU, it is not as good an experience as being able to make use of both an inboard Intel GPU and nvidia card together although very high end AMD cards seem to be able to cope if the posts found on the forums are anything to go by. I can't personally say from experience as I gave up with AMD in the early days of the Athlon processor and been Intel / nvidia ever since.
Ray.
Ray: thank you for that tip and link. Indeed, my last correspondence with Magix about this was in 2018! Probably everything has changed...
Hi
. . . . In correspondence with Magix three years ago . . . .
There have been significant changes in VPX since then!
To add to @CubeAce comment:
. . . . While the program will run just using a CPU, it is not as good an experience as being able to make use of both an inboard Intel GPU and nvidia card together although very high end AMD cards seem to be able to cope . . .
After some testing on my laptop, specification in my signature, exporting MVC encoded 3D video with VPX 12, and presumably earlier versions, required an Intel integrated iGPU for hardware acceleration of the 3D MVC encoding. As soon as i tried to use the Nvidia RTX 2060 an error message came up telling to me to turn off HWA, and the export would not continue using the RTX.
VPX13 is designed to work with Intel/Nvidia and AMD GPU's and the performance difference with a suitable GPU is noticably/significantly better. I cannot test this at the moment.
How much performance you will get depends on the intel processer and GPU(s) installed in the MAC workstation.
John EB