VPX v15 works jerkily

Mrku wrote on 4/10/2018, 3:34 AM

Goodmorning everyone!

Recently I had some problems with my video card drivers so I uninstalled all magix product with the cleaner tool, clean all video card driver (with another tool) and then install again all updated drivers. Now the video card works flawlessly again!

I have re-install VPX7 (for the Mercalli V4 that I totally love) and then the VPX8 and updated.

So, actually in my system is running both VPX7 (14.0.0.155) and VPX (15.0.5.211).

The problem is that vers. 14 works like a charm, all is smooth, but vers. 15 is unusable! I can't work with it, I can't preview a transition neither preview a simple video without the program works jerkily!! And I can't understand why! I'm forced to export each video to understand if I'm working correctly!

Can anyone please help? I've tried every program setting but nothing change.

I'm working on Windows 7 professional SP1 x64 machine, with intel xeon 3.10GHz and 16GB of ram. The video card is a Nvidia Quadro 2000.

Thank you!

 

 

 

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Mrku wrote on 4/11/2018, 1:58 AM

I have to add also that some of the NewBlue v3 effects do not apply to the preview. Even when I export the video it remains black.
Could this help you understand where the problem is?

 
johnebaker wrote on 4/11/2018, 3:13 AM

Hi

This topic has been raised many times, the most likely issue is that you have no hardware acceleration capability probably due to:
 

  1. loss of 'CUDA' (NVCUVID) support due to the NVidia drivers being updated.
     
  2. no integrated GPU, the minimum specification for the PC requires an onboard ie integrated GPU - Zeon processors do not have these only the Intel i series of processor.
     
  3. Hardware acceleration for playback and export is not turned on in the programs settings.

Check to see if the NVidia drivers have been updated - if so try rolling them back to the previous version.

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

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Mrku wrote on 4/12/2018, 2:12 AM

Thank you John!

I apologize if this topic had already been discussed!

  1. loss of 'CUDA' (NVCUVID) support due to the NVidia drivers being updated.

I've checked with this tool: http://cuda-z.sourceforge.net/ and all looks fine!

 

  1. no integrated GPU, the minimum specification for the PC requires an onboard ie integrated GPU - Zeon processors do not have these only the Intel i series of processor.

I really can't understand this thing! Most professional workstations use an external GPU! How is it possible that VPX necessarily needs an integrated GPU?

  1. Hardware acceleration for playback and export is not turned on in the programs settings.

Hardware acceleration is turned on.

 

Check to see if the NVidia drivers have been updated - if so try rolling them back to the previous version.

The drivers is now up to date and works perfectly. The issue was born with a previous version of the drivers.

By the way, I tried to change the video card settings on "Video editing" and this maybe helps a little.

I also reset the program settings to default and now seems to work better. The preview is a little smoother and the effects apply. I can't apply the newblue effects yet...

I really can not understand why version 14 works so well while the latest version, which should be more performing, is so difficult to set up!

 
johnebaker wrote on 4/12/2018, 3:39 AM

Hi

. . . . Most professional workstations use an external GPU! . . . .

They do, however a professional workstation is designed for specific tasks eg CAD and DCC (animation), hence the Zeon processor and Quadro 2000, it is rare to find a Zeon based PC outside specialist work environments.

. . . . . How is it possible that VPX necessarily needs an integrated GPU? . . . .

VPX, like several other video editing programs, takes advantage of the Intel integrated GPU capabilities ie the built in video encoding/decoding functions.

The CUDA-Z info does not tell you if VPX is actually using the GPU for HWA - try exporting a short video as mp4 from VPX - if HWA is being used you should see the word CUDA appear in the title bar of the export dialog during the export.

HTH

John EB

 

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

Mrku wrote on 4/12/2018, 4:11 AM
The CUDA-Z info does not tell you if VPX is actually using the GPU for HWA - try exporting a short video as mp4 from VPX - if HWA is being used you should see the word CUDA appear in the title bar of the export dialog during the export.

Thank you!

I can't find the CUDA word anywhere... so, no HWA?

EDIT: I tried to check if there was acceleration on the VPX7 version and there is not! But the program works perfectly anyway!

 

 
alexander-nevis wrote on 5/7/2018, 12:10 PM

Add my 5 cents...
I also agree that VPX7 was faster, but the past will not return.
At this point, VPX8 works for me much more stable than the unfortunate Vegas Pro 15, but infinitely slowly!!!
Okay, I'm ready to suffer the loss of hardware acceleration of my GTX 1080 graphics card. 
But why 8 cores of my CPU "i7 6900K Broadwell-e" (Socket 2011-3), after updating "VPX" to version 15.0.5.211, is active at rendering 4K 60p video by only 40%?. Even the previous version loaded the processor on 60-70 %
Is there any way to fix this?