Good stuff...
Yoo Hoo! Here comes Magix Video Deluxe!
AAProds
wrote on 6/1/2025, 7:37 AM
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bjtap
wrote on 6/1/2025, 10:26 AM
This website may offer some insight to the new product. It is a German Site and I used Google Translate.
https://lizenzguru.de/magix-video-deluxe-2026-ultimate.html
Here is some of the Google Translate:
Compared to previous versions, the Ultimate version includes:
Advanced AI features: The revolutionary AI features make getting started with video editing easier than ever before. These include AI-generated audio commentary, subtitles, and special AI effects for a unique look.
Improved media management: The new all-in-one media window optimizes workflow and provides faster access to all tools.
Advanced color correction: With more pre-built LUTs (look-up tables), users can give their videos a cinematic look. This feature was not included in previous basic versions.
360° Editing: The ability to edit 360-degree videos has been improved and is now more intuitive.
Performance optimizations: The INFUSION engine has been further developed to enable even more stable and powerful editing.
Another significant difference from previous versions is the integration of numerous proDAD plug-ins and VitaScen.
Apparently there will be three versions available. You should be able to compare the versions on this website.
Barry
Reyfox
wrote on 6/1/2025, 10:51 AM
I too received the email with the name change to Video Deluxe. This should have been done a long time ago.
I wonder what will happen to VPX now.
bjtap
wrote on 6/1/2025, 2:13 PM
I too received the email with the name change to Video Deluxe. This should have been done a long time ago.
I wonder what will happen to VPX now.
https://lizenzguru.ch/magix-video-pro-x17.html
Here is more info on VPX 17.
me_again
wrote on 6/2/2025, 4:03 AM
Hmm,
Looking at @bjtap's link for Video Deluxe 2026 (post #3) the only improvement as far as I can see is the (possible?) speed improvement to the Infusion Engine 3.
I don't need all the extra 3rd Party effects as I already have loads that I never use. The ProDAD plugins are of interest but not if they're on the "rental" (12 month subscription) basis. Interestingly NO mention of the AV1 codec.
To me it seems like it's only a re-badged MS2025 which itself, from what I've discovered to my cost, was only really a re-badged MS2024 with some of the bugs fixed that should have been fixed for free.
I was really quite excited when I had the razzley email yesterday, (and that doesn't happen very often these days 😀) but now ....
I certainly won't be paying to be a beta tester; been there, done that and have quite a few expensive T-shirts.
Once bitten, forever shy.
AndyW
ps Mind you, I am quite prepared to be convinced otherwise.
Reyfox
wrote on 6/2/2025, 5:08 AM
There are several ways of looking at this "announcement". I take everything with a "grain of salt". I don't want to read about what I would be getting, but to know if what is advertised, is really being delivered.
As for 3rd party addons, it's a selling point to others to get them to "come on over!". Bling is what sells. There always has to be something new and flashy, even though like you said, most of it will never get used. In order for proDAD to also make money, they can't be giving away their products as perpetual. Those products are listed to cost far more than the entire package of Video Deluxe. If someone likes the addon and think it is essential to their editing, maybe a discounted price should be something offered when the subscription ends. I know with Vegas Pro many years ago, when they offered Boris FX Continuum Units that were version locked, I decided to buy Continuum Complete and not have to worry about buying the more expensive Vegas Suite and bought Vegas Edit instead. It was one of the best moves I've made in buying a plugin. Continuum works with every version so far of Vegas Pro, and Davinci Resolve.
As for beta testing, no matter the software you buy, that is what you will be, paying to beta test. Nothing is bug free in the zillions of lines of coding in complex software. And my understanding is that you can get a refund in 30 days, so you have full access to see if they fixed your issues.
I own Davinci Resolve Studio. 20 just came out of beta, and here is the official list of bug fixes from Red Shark. Get ready...
General performance and stability improvements. Nice
And if you think you have gripes about things needing attention, how about this thread and this thread in the Resolve forum. This is a professionally used editing software that almost everyone recommends. People were leaving Adobe Premiere because of constant bugs and crashing.
You can go to any forum and read about issues from software. Some are user/hardware/OS caused, others are global for everyone. Some affect certain users, while it won't affect others because they don't use that part of the software.
What I am more curious to see what will happen with VPX, but understand not everyone needs all of that power to do a weekend travel video. I do hope they will improve OFX support, but not sure if that is possible. I do have Vegas Pro 22 Suite and Davinci Resolve Studio 20 to edit. But would love to add VPX 17 (I do have VPX14), but it has to bring something more than window dressing.
Oh.... as for AV1, for us AMD users, only the 7000 series forward support it, so it would have to be software rendered. Nvidia 3000-5000 series, along with Intel Arc and 12th generation Alder Lake processors and newer, such as the UHD 730 and UHD 770. Additionally, all Intel CPUs after Tiger Lake also come with AV1 support. So if I want to use it, I can in Vegas/Resolve rendering with the CPU.
The cost of admission to Video Deluxe is nominal when averaged out over a year.
me_again
wrote on 6/2/2025, 6:31 AM
Thanks for your reply, you make some interesting comments - I especially take your point about ProDAD.
"As for beta testing, no matter the software you buy, that is what you will be, paying to beta test"
True but it doesn't mean I have to like it.
"as for AV1 …."
My Nvidia GPU hardware renders AV1 successfully in most other video editing program I have, all of which are free, the only one that uses software rendering in AV1 is Avidemux.
All videos hardware rendered by these programs are searchable and have thumbnails, Magix MS2025 produces an AV1 file without either of those qualities. I've had lots of contact with Magix over this and their attitude is that there is nothing wrong, at least that's how it comes over to me.
Interestingly, MS2025 AV1 software rendered files have both thumbnails and are searchable but painfully slow to encode compared to hardware rendering.
"The cost of admission to Video Deluxe is nominal when averaged out over a year"
Again true, but expensive if I get no benefit from a new version.
"General performance and stability improvements"
I agree - nice, BUT are these improvements real world improvements or just improvements on paper? The only way to find out if there is any improvement on my system is to buy it and see. If any improvement is not really noticeable then it's an expensive experiment.
It can be argued that I can install the trial version of Video Deluxe 2026 - limited to 3 minute encodes did I read? - but this will no doubt uninstall / overwrite my current MS2025 which is a bit of a pain to put it mildly.
I've done my fair share of buying and commenting on new versions when released. Now, hopefully time and (apologies for being selfish) others will tell.
AndyW
Reyfox
wrote on 6/2/2025, 6:54 AM
There is nothing wrong with you being "selfish". We all are. When new versions of any software that I use are being released, I look at what are the improvements and new features that are added. If they are something that I can use, and what ever bug fixes are listed have mine included, I'll buy. Again, the cost for the software for me, and this is purely personal, isn't high at all if I am going to use out of it. Updates have been around $50 for the Suite version of MSS, which comes out to a little over $4 a month. for me, that is nothing considering I have no vices other than video editing. But that's "me" and how I look at things. But MMS/VD isn't my "cup of tea" since I work and edit in a 10bit 4:2:2 world most of the time.
The problem with installing a trial or the update version with Magix is really dumb. Yes, I said it, dumb. You paid for a previous version and lose that functionality if you update to the same version. This is the only software where I've had that experience. I can have Vegas Pro installed all the way back to when I first bought it, Vegas 14. With Pinnacle Studio, every single version can co-exist with all the others. Same with Videostudio Pro. Resolve requires some name changes of files. Not the best way, but it can be done. This needs to be changed.
The only way to know if you will get a benefit from an upgraded software is to actually use it. And while trial versions are "ok", I want to test it with how I edit, and 3 minute exports aren't the answer. But I usually know already if I am going to upgrade. And being a beta tester of software that if I listed them, you would know every single one of them, I've gotten used to working with problems.
The only way to know if those improvements are real world or not is to use the software. I can't speak for the improvements with Resolve 20 Studio. It seems to work the same as before for me on my hardware.
AV1 software encoding during render works out my 16 cores and 32 threads. Not as fast as GPU acceleration, but if I wanted to render out AV1, it's ok. I remember waiting overnight for things to render way back in the day, and I had the second most powerful build computer at the time for desktop video editing. But I am quite content to render to MP4. Is there a specific reason for using AV1?
Again, Video Deluxe is not on my radar for editing. It doesn't do enough for "me". VPX is more in my wheelhouse, but it has to bring something new to the table for me, and OFX support is one of needs I have.
I will be watching with curiosity as the products are released, and look forward to first hand usage by the more experienced MMS/VPX users in the forum before deciding. Oh, and the pricing is a little steep for VPX pushing it up against Vegas Pro.