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ACIDon 2/14/2023
Updates and Bugfixes Gone Quiet?
I wish you the best of luck. I used to love Acid Pro as well, used it since the initial 1.0 release and had high hopes for when Magix took her over. However, soon came to the realization that most of the Magix development seems to be focused around bundling software packages together and calling it a new release. It was a tough decision but finally moved on to another DAW which only has 2 developers working on it but is able to provide bug fixes and new features in release updates every 1-2 weeks. I then decided to take things into my own hands and develop a user interface for that DAW to make me feel more at home. Now I couldn't be happier and if I ever get that itch to use Acid, it's a simple rewire to my current DAW away. Here's a couple images of the interface I created for that other DAW. I consider it an Acid Pro v30.0 sneak preview at Acid's current rate of development and bug fixing. 😉
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ACIDon 2/7/2023
EZDrummer 3 Not working in ACID Pro Suite
For those of you considering trying out Reaper. I've spent the past 2 years in my not so much free time making a custom Reaper theme to reduce the transition growing pains for Acid Pro and Vegas Pro users. As an original Acid Pro and Vegas Pro user since v1.0 of both programs, this Reaper theme is my personal vision of what both of those apps could have been if they stayed focus on continuing their DAW developments, where we all know what happened. Would be great to hear some feedback from others familiar with Acid for future theme improvements/enhancement suggestions. Introducing RiVOA (Reaper in Vegas on Acid)
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ACIDon 12/18/2022
"Drive D: Low on Storage" You sure about that AP10?
@Rednroll ignore it and click out of it. It's just another of the many flaws and bugs in this program. Years ago (when I did use AP) I would get that same message. I, like you, knew there was plenty of space on the drive. I clicked it off and carried on. Cheers Yep, I've pretty much migrated to Reaper at this point. I'll rewire Acid to Reaper in some instances and haven't fired up Acid in quite some time and when I did, I'm now greeted with this message on launch. Within that time, I previously had a 1TB SSD in my PC for drive D: which had over 500GB free but replaced it with a 4TB SSD since it's my main record/temp drive I have assigned in Acid and all my other audio apps. Suspect that must have caused AP10 some confusion, probably some of the 32bit remnants hanging around.
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ACIDon 6/7/2022
EZDrummer 3 Not working in ACID Pro Suite
I ran into this same problem with EZDrummer 2 as well as Superior Drummer 3 when working with Acid Pro. I'm guessing since I don't own EZD3.....but it's likely the same problem. What you may notice is that all ToonTrack Plugins are currently VST3 plugins. What I noticed is that all my other VST3 instrument plugins install with a ".VST3" file extension for the plugin, where ToonTrack's plugs install with a ".DLL" file extension instead. By default, they get installed to your PC's "C:\Program Files\Common Files\ VST3\" plugins folder. For some reason Acid Pro seems to have a problem with the the different file extension and being located in the default VST3 plugin folder but Reaper doesn't as mentioned. So how to get it to work? 1. Navigate to your VST3 plugin folder : "C:\Program Files\Common Files\ VST3\" 2. Find the EZDrummer3 plugin file 3. Copy or move that file to your VST2 64bit install plugins folder, typically located at C:\Program Files\VSTPlugins\ or C:\Program Files\Steinberg\VSTPlugins\ (ie which ever folder you have Acid setup to scan for 64bit VST2 plugins). 4. Restart Acid. Acid will go through a re-scan of your plugins and EZDrummer will now load and function correctly. I don't visit here often since I've moved onto other DAW programs but may fire up Acid via re-wire from time to time if working with loops. This should likely be stickied to the top of the forum, if Magix isn't going to get around to fixing the issue. I responded to a few other posts in the past with the same issue of ToonTrack plugins not working in Acid after I had the same problem and eventually figured out how to solve it. Good luck!
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ACIDon 9/6/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
Red, another thing to note in your quest, when you zoom in acid, the grid changes along with it. No need to change the grid values manually. Thats another plus point for Acid. Reaper and S1 still don't have it. I tried playing around with preferences but can't seem to get it to behave. By the way, I am still on version 7 as that has proved to be the most stable so far. Again, whatever you are doing, it is highly appreciated. There's a lot of great tutorials on Youtube from other users which admittedly, I also need to watch to catch up on Reaper's way of working with loops. Many of them go into the customization options to change the default behaviors and explain Reaper's way and which customizations to consider making if you don't like the default behaviors. If interested you may want to check some of these out as well. Tutorials For Reaper | Audio Loops in Reaper | Similar to Sony Acid | Drag and Drop | Regions Kenny Gioia has a great Reaper channel and breaks down most everything on loop production in Reaper with an 11 part series. He often goes into breaking down the available custom option adjustments. Most of the time after watching some of these tutorials, usually a light bulb goes off in my head where I realize....oh man! That's awesome, I never even realized that. Essentially, when I get to the loop production customization of my theme, these are the things I'll be watching to best determine how to set Reaper up to function much more like Acid. Reaper saves all these types of custimazation settings in *.ini files which can be easily distributed and edited with a text editor. Unlike Acid which stores them in the registry or some proprietary file format.
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ACIDon 9/6/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
On the most part, I feel sheppo means well. He's a user like you and me who accepted the unrewarding offer of being a forum moderator. He at least knows Acid well enough to a certain extent. I do feel some of his responses could be better guided by seeking to understand some of these expressed frustrations instead of contradicting them and then once understanding them, passing the finer details of what's really wrong with Acid, along to the program managers he is likely in communications with. That would be more of a win/win for everyone, so I won't hold that negativity against him.
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ACIDon 9/6/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
This is all very interesting, however it leaves me wondering. Does every thread critiquing Acid have to quickly turn in to Rednroll's reaper therapy discussion? Almost every post you make is about reaper. This isn't the Reaper community forum. If you prefer the continuous bitch and moan sessions which are most prevalent on this forum, I can leave them at that. > Sony decided to kick me off of all those beta teams as well as ban me from their forums 😅 I'm glad out of all the comments I made, you enjoyed that one the most. Funny, how you didn't highlight the part where I mentioned about the 4 Sony developers which joined my user forum afterwards because they were the one's most interested in hearing constructive criticism feedback about the products from their most passionate users, so they could bring their voices to the development table and actually try to improve the products for the better. Something that is definitely lacking in these forums of having any great developer and user interactions. I'll also give you a hint. The users who actually take the time to make complaints on this forum about Acid are the ones who are most interested and passionate about these products. If Magix took the time to listen to these individuals and actually improve the products, they would also be the ones speaking the loudest in support of the products and thus promoting it on their behalf. That's the part those Sony developers who joined my user forum fully understood. You also may have missed the part where I outlined Open in Sound Forge does not work properly in Acid. You could probably benefit from more users like myself who actually know how functions were intended to work. Magix inherited this product and something like that makes it pretty obvious they have no one on their staff who are even aware of many of the intended behaviors of Acid's original design or anyone on their beta teams who know the product well enough to be able to point it out to them. Along that same front, Sound Forge is also messed up on that integration. The intent was that you could have both Acid and Sound Forge concurrently running on the same system and bring selected audio back and forth between them without launching a new instance of Sound Forge each time you selected Open Sound Forge in Acid or Vegas. The current behavior under Magix's umbrella is that every time you select Open in Sound Forge from Acid is that it launches a new instance of Sound Forge each time. Do that 10 times and now you have 10 instances of Sound Forge running. Sound Forge some how along the way, lost the intelligence that it was already running on the system and didn't need to launch a new instance, it just needed to open that audio into another window within the Sound Forge which was already running. It's a pretty sad state of affairs when the products owned by the same company and the integration between them doesn't even work properly and there doesn't seem to be any users left to be able to point it out to them. So you may want to make yourself more useful and pass these bugs along to your contacts at Magix. You can inform them carrying over the selection works properly in VP18 if they're unsure of that intended design behavior and hopefully they'll be able to figure out a way to not have Sound Forge launch new instances every time you select Open in Sound Forge from Vegas and/or Acid. That's how it worked in the past, so somewhere in that code within Sound Forge it's already present but Magix likely unintentionally broke it along the way. Oh, and if they fixed some of these things....you likely wouldn't hear me talking so much about Reaper but the fact of the matter is in their current states, many of these products actually went backwards in functionality from when they were owned by Sonic Foundry and Sony.
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ACIDon 9/5/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
I'll say, Acid's way is probably somewhere in Reaper. Let me share with you a back story of what spawned the entire Reaper kick-off development. A long time ago on the Sony forums I was invited by the developers to be part of the Acid, Vegas, Sound Forge and CD Architect beta test teams for multiple developments. There was a new Vegas release on the horizon, it may have been version 5 or 6, I don't remember. Many audio users at that time were chomping at the bit for Sony to add Rewire to Vegas, so they could combine the Midi sequencing and loop sequencing of Acid to Vegas's multi-track audio features. Sony decided they couldn't or wouldn't do it. During beta test times of that particular Vegas release, I had to bite my tongue on the forums of just how neglected the audio feature development had gotten where I already knew early on Vegas wasn't going to get Rewire that everyone had wanted. When it finally got released, a large portion of the audio users were pissed because it was a wake up realization that Sony was pretty much done supporting the audio side of Vegas. I shared their enthusiasm frustrations in the forum discussions. I didn't violate any forum rules, but due to those discussions Sony decided to kick me off of all those beta teams as well as ban me from their forums. Many users observed this unjust punishment. I was like....ok, you don't want me to be a part of your user forums, I'll create my own Sony app user forum. I did that and about 150 Sony audio users decided to join me on my user forum. One of those user's was Justin Frankel the founding developer of Reaper and he at that exact same time decided to kick off the initial developments of Reaper and was hosting development discussions with all us passionate Sony app users on my forum. Before you knew it, I had 4 of the Sony developers also join that forum and participating discussions. The irony LOL! Anyways, a big part of those user discussions with Justin at that time was to ensure Reaper would implement the Acid pick and paint exactly how you described and have shown. So I know it worked that way in the past, since we had over 100 users describing to him what they wanted from Acid in that department and he was listening. What happened over time as Reaper's development grew and so did the userbase, Acid became less and less relevant and more Protools, Cubase, Cakewalk, and Logic Pro users started to adopt Reaper, where their preferences of how they preferred things to function became more and more prevalent in Reaper's development. What Justin seems to have done is make everything configurable through a combination of preference settings and the action item lists I described previously. Many of those action items underneath of the hood of Reaper tucked away under the "Action menu" are a lot of toggle on/off actions, where you can either run that action directly to toggle that preference or assign it to a button as I described. So what I'm getting at is that what you want is highly likely already in Reaper it just needs to be turned on to function that way in some manner. I haven't checked into or searched for it yet. I know it was discussed at nausea with Justin and the initial userbase on my forum who then migrated to the Reaper forums once Justin got that up and running to ensure the Acid paint feature got into Reaper as you discussed but Justin is a really creative individual and also tried to do things "better" while still providing that same type of workflow but he also later had to accommodate the other larger userbase by adjusting default preference settings and thus likely the reason you see how it works now out of the box without adjusting any preferences or searching through the action menu list. For myself, I changed careers about 2 years after I launched my forum and was no longer working at recording studios like I had in the past, where I stopped using DAWs all together for an extended period of time to focus on the new career, which means I also lost touch with Reaper's development.....for like the past 10 years LOL! So I'm doing quite a bit of catch up on Reaper at this point. I'll also add, in my Reaper customization efforts...although the configuring of Acid loop's painting functionality is on my personal tudo list, it currently falls nears the bottom of when I'll get to it. That list has an order which currently looks more like this 1. User interface layout (Acid/Vegas look and feel), 2. Customizing action list toolbars for quick access to Vegas/Acid common features 3. Preference settings adjustments, so out of the box by default works more like Acid and Vegas. 4. Customize all the layouts of the menus and right click contextual menus so the name descriptions and menu layout match Vegas/Acid, instead of that big list yuck. 5. Midi sequencing customizations 6. Acid loop sequencing customizations 7. Create a distribution package which wraps all those items together in one nice easy to install bundle.
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ACIDon 9/5/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
When I 1st started using Reaper, I was used to Acid and Vegas, Right click, context menu and selecting "Open in Sound Forge". Did that in Reaper and saw this mess and was like.....WOW! this really stinks! What a freaking mess! I still need to tame down that menu above, but for the time being I created that custom tool bar and configured Reaper so that when I Shift+Click on the bottom of the audio event, that toolbar pops up where my mouse is located and I just click on those Open in Sound Forge or Open Copy in Sound Forge custom buttons I created. It's actually now easier for me to use than the Vegas and Acid method. How about another Acid Pro irony while I'm on the subject of Open in Sound Forge? When you have a smaller section of a longer audio event selected in Acid and then choose to do an "Open in Sound Forge"......that smaller section you had selected in Acid, the selection is suppose to carry over into Sound Forge....so you're working on the exact same section of audio in SF as you were in Acid. Guess where that no longer functions like it is supposed to? Yours truly Acid Pro 10. Guess where it does function properly? In Reaper. It also functions properly in Vegas Pro. And again both Reaper and Vegas have an Open "Copy" in Sound Forge option but which app doesn't? Again Acid Pro doesn't have an Open Copy in Sound Forge option. These kind of small things have just piled up for me that I just have to laugh at what a joke Acid has become and I used to really love this program.
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ACIDon 9/5/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
Guess who created these "Open in Sound Forge" and "Open Copy in Sound Forge" buttons in Reaper? Muwahahahahahaha! 😆 I was feeling ambitious, took me like 5 minutes in Photoshop to create them. 😉
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ACIDon 9/5/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
What I really disliked about Reaper was the menus and contextual right click menus. They were this long list of options with very long descriptions. What I later learned is those long list names are the action names and all those long names can be renamed to whatever you're familiar with and all those menus can also be edited and arranged however you like. By default they just seem to throw everything into those menus which makes it feel like you're reading a book everytime you right click on something. Also everyone of those actions and custom combo actions you create can be assigned to a button of your choice and placed on a toolbar, as well as be assigned to keyboard shortcuts of your choice. So I totally get why people get turned off by Reaper with their initial impressions when trying it out. However, later as I dug into it further, realized there is a method behind that madness and in a way it's kind of brilliant. 😁 I was kind of laughing to myself when Vegas Pro 19 launched. One of the biggest complaints was some icon button was "too dark and hard to see". And now everyone's waiting for the next developer build to come out with an easier to see button. Was laughing because in Reaper , if that same thing happened then you just go change the button, picking from a long list of available stock buttons which takes 2 seconds or if you're ambitious go create your own or edit the one that is already there in your favorite photo editor.
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ACIDon 9/5/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
I will definitely check into those things for you while I plug away at this. Unsure about double clicking in browser to add an empty track but I believe there is an option to double click in browser and have it added to a new track to where your timeline cursor is currently positioned. Hower, there are additional custom options I can look into. Reaper has what they call "actions" which is basically a long list of every feature/function inside of Reaper where you can take each of those actions, combine them, and create a "custom" action. So there is possible way to have it added to the timeline trackview as I described, then delete it off the timeline via creating a 2 step custom action but to the user it would look just like an empty track was added for you to paint away on. I definitely like to hear how others work in Acid while I'm working on this to make sure there isn't something important I overlooked.
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ACIDon 9/5/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
I understand how you feel. I've been using Acid and Vegas since each of their v1.0 initial releases. Vegas even before 1.0 since I was on the initial Vegas beta team. As I stated, keep an eye on my thread....it's currently a work in progress. I'm nowhere even close to being done making changes. That's the great thing about Reaper. If it doesn't do what you want, most everything can be customized. Some of those customizations take more effort than others. As outlined in my discussion, I'm putting in those efforts so others like us won't have to....but you are also welcome to wait and keep complaining on these forums about Acid and see which option ends up being more productive for you. ;)
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ACIDon 9/4/2021
playing back 8 channels
Thanks sheppo. It's more about trying to play a single track file through 8 speakers, so each speaker plays the same, in order to fill a large space. Sounds like it's not possible in ACID... I appreciate the reply. If it's a "single track" file like you're describing then it should be as simple as creating a 7.1 project and setting that track's surround pan to dead center. If it's a single container file with 8 tracks, then that's another story. So what type of file is it? Let's start there. File format? Encoding properties, Etc?
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ACIDon 9/4/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
I'll also add, what originally threw me off when trying to do pick and paint in Reaper was I dragged and dropped an Acid loop from the explorer to a track. Then clicked on an empty area in that track. The cursor pencil tool was displayed, so I then went to paint away but it kept drawing empty audio events and it was starting to frustrate me. However, now that I better understand how it works, I guess that makes total sense. Since I clicked my mouse on an empty area in the track view, that now meant my paint brush pencil tool was now empty also. I actually, can see how that can be more useful. In Vegas and Acid there's an insert empty audio event for punch in recording purposes which Reaper has also, but you can also not even have go to the menus and use the pencil tool instead to draw in that empty event. It makes total sense and once you get more comfortable it actually seems like a better way to do things.
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ACIDon 9/4/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
Yes, the pick and paint is definitely on my list and is the the thing I like most when working with loops in Acid. I haven't tried working with loops much in Reaper but what I noticed when I did, was that you can click on an audio event in the track view and when you do that, it becomes your picked paint option, as if you just dipped your paint brush into a can of paint. Then when you place your mouse anywhere in an empty track view area, the mouse automatically turns into a pencil just like Acid and then you paint away. You just need to remember which can you last dipped your paint brush into...LOL! Therefore, Reaper is actually better in this area IMHO since it's not locked into Acid's one loop per track paradigm but if you prefer that one loop per track then no reason you can't just click on one of the events in the same track and paint away later down the timeline on that same track. I believe there's a preference settings for the other things you mentioned where I will definitely check into those and ensure they are turned on in my theme by default. I actually prefer the double click on file in explorer Acid/Vegas preference loads the file into the trimmer in Vegas or chopper in Acid but since Reaper has the trimmer/chopper built right into the explorer view it eliminates the need for that extra step and opens up the door for the behavior you like. So I'll be sure to add that, thanks for the suggestion. BTW, Reaper has a non expiring demo mode where I believe the only limitation in demo is that it gives you a nag screen reminding you to purchase a license on launch. So you can try out my theme as I progress at no cost. A personal use license is $60 and can be installed on as many PCs as you want, to get rid of that nag screen. You're just not suppose to run more than 2 instances at a time with personal license but it's more of an honor system license system where many pay it to help fund the continuous development. Commercial license is $260 which is intended for Pro recording Studio houses where multiple installs with multiple people will be running the program. No difference in functionality in any of the demo, personal or commercial licenses.
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ACIDon 9/4/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
Since I simply cannot work in any other DAW as well as Acid Pro, version 7 has been working without a hitch. You may be interested in following my developments of a Vegas/Acid Pro Reaper theme and customization discussion thread. Would love to hear from others more familiar with Acid to make sure I include all the good stuff. 😉 https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?p=2477961#post2477961
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ACIDon 9/2/2021
STEM Maker in Acid Pro Suite?
There's a post of mine stickied to the the top of this forum which has the majority of the details and some alternatives to check out. https://www.magix.info/us/forum/stem-maker-removed-details-discussion--1275384/
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ACIDon 9/2/2021
Acid Pro 7-Last best version to ever surface.
Ever since Acid became a true multi-track DAW it was originally a very welcome addition but with each new release that followed, there was a lot left to be desired. I was always more of a fan of Vegas Pro over Acid Pro where my hope after audio was pretty much done being at the forefront of Vegas Pro's development Acid would have swiftly packed all the audio feature of Vegas into it and then continue to grow within the DAW development market. Aside from the troubles which are present in Acid, it's just been a major disappointment to me that Acid never really even caught up to Vegas Pro's audio features. It actually throws me off quite a bit since I do more audio work in Vegas Pro when I go to use Acid Pro. Things like Vegas has way more audio editing capabilities than Acid and even what should be simple things like when I right click on an audio event and select "switches" and only see "Lock and Mute" available in Acid where in Vegas you not only have Lock and mute, but Loop, Invert Phase, and Normalize. Then the additional channel switches when working with Stereo/Mono events which are in Vegas of "Both, Left only, Right only, Combine, and Swap". It's just such a disappointing that Acid Pro's development can't even keep up with their own Vegas Pro app which hasn't had any audio features added to it since VP6 where VP19 just got released. I've made my decision where I'm moving to Reaper. Initially, I really didn't like Reaper's user interface but since then I've invested a lot of efforts into getting to know it's customization possibilities. I've spent a good part of the last month creating a Vegas/Acid theme in Reaper where I feel once I get done, it will be the Vegas Pro + Acid Pro I've been wishing for since AP6 and on top of that, it runs very smooth and everything just works. The ironic thing is that by the time I'm finished customizing Reaper, it will functionally be much closer to Vegas Pro than Acid Pro. Justin Frankel the developer of Reaper was originally a Vegas Pro user, where he seemed to make sure Reaper got all the features of Vegas Pro and a whole lot more. He's recently added Video editing capabilities to Reaper. I'm anticipating it won't be long before I'm ditching Vegas as well on that front. I'm still trying to get comfortable with Reaper's loop sequencing workflow compared to Acid's. It seems very similar but some things throw me off. I don't do loop sequencing often, so if I don't get comfortable with Reaper's method, I'll just keep Acid Pro around for that purpose and Rewire it to Reaper just to use Acid's loop sequencing. No need for me to update Acid any longer as long as it runs on the current OS I'm using.
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ACIDon 8/17/2021
Don't know how bad your host is with plugins until you tried another
This applies to new development, not existing or older products. For example, Super 8 (NI's newer Synth) is VST3-only. They don't have a VST2 version. So, if you want to use it and your DAW doesn't support VST3, or is problematic with them, you are relegated to hosting it within Komplete Kontrol to access it. As more new products are introduced, we will see the weight of this decision increase. Yes, you're really not informing me of anything I didn't already know, so unsure the reasons you felt the need to try to educate me on VST plugins. I've had multiple discussions and feature requests for Vegas to support VST3 for the exact reasons you described but I haven't seen any audio additions in Vegas since Magix acquired it. A new version is suppose to come out this month. Willing to bet VST3 plugin support is still not in Vegas Pro in that new VP19 release and for certain if it does, many are certain to not work. Toontracks VSTi's which I own are VST3 only. They didn't work inside of Acid. I had to move things around to get Acid to finally recognize them, others experienced the same problem. Antares Auto-tune and Celemony Melodyne, also VST3 only. Melodyne also doesn't work inside of Acid for me as my list shows and others have reported on this forum problems with Melodyne in Acid as well, which is odd since they are now bundling it with Acid. I also tested multiple VSTi's which are not included on my list. Quite a few VSTi3 instruments didn't work in Acid. You know where they all did work with no problems or monkeying around and no need of some Komplete Kontrol wrapper? You know the thing. 😄 By the time Vegas Pro gets VST3 plugin support, Reaper will have already surpassed Vegas on video editing capabilities. They already added video editing to Reaper and by the time Reaper does surpass Vegas on that front, I will have fully gotten my chops entrenched in using it and have it configured to my liking. The only reason I continue to install the VST2 version plugins on my system is due to the lack of support of VST3 plugins for Vegas Pro as I mentioned previously. Considering Reaper only has 3 developers on staff, it really makes you wonder what Magix could do with Acid, Vegas, and Sound Forge if they actually dedicated some developers to those products and let them actually work on them instead of some once a year rush to tweak a few features, swap out some icons, bundle it with some 3rd party software and call it a new version.
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ACIDon 8/16/2021
Don't know how bad your host is with plugins until you tried another
When I install plugins, I install both the VST2 and VST3 versions when available since Magix's Vegas Pro doesn't support VST3 plugins. The problems I'm running into most often is that both VSTx64 and VST3x64 versions don't work in Acid. VST3 seems to have the most problems both 32bit and 64bit versions. VST2 x86 (32bit versions) seem to work in Acid more often. So unsure why you're telling me about VST2 being discontinued, seems like a better message for Magix to get on the ball and start working on Acid Pro to better support VST3 plugins and get it inside of Vegas Pro while they're at it. They all work inside of Reaper doesn't matter if they're VST2 or VST3, they all just work and while I'm working inside of Reaper I use the VST3 x64 versions when available. I wish Magix would give me that same capability inside of Acid and I wouldn't be bothering to switch to Reaper.
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ACIDon 8/12/2021
Waves Tune LT
My experience with Waves Tune LT and other waves plugins in AP10.
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ACIDon 8/11/2021
[Acid Pro 10] Does anyone know how to get Melodyne working?
See my recent post where I tested a bunch of plugins. Melodyne v5.0.1 VST3x64 was one that did not even show up in Acid despite it showing a category in the plugin manager for "Celemony" https://www.magix.info/us/forum/don-t-know-how-bad-your-host-is-with-plugins-until-you-tried-another--1280346/ Here's what I see in Acid's plugin manager....nothing but an empty "Celemony" folder shows up under the Vendors folder. The same plugin, works fine in Reaper. I also found Melodyne shows up in Sound Forge 15 as it should since SFP15 suite was bundled with Melodyne. So if you have Sound Forge, you could try a work around and select to Open Copy in Sound Forge from within Acid. Something I haven't yet tried. I found with another plugin which got installed to the C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3 folder such is the same case with Melodyne VST3x64. That plugin similarly didn't show up in Acid, but found if I copied that plugin to the C:\Program Files\VSTPlugins folder, that oddly that plugin showed up in Acid and worked.....provided you have Acid set to scan that folder. So you may want to give that a try, I haven't tried that with Melodyne. Acid's handling of VST3x64 plugins does not seem to be very good. I've been busy migrating to Reaper due these type of frustrations within Acid. Giving up on trying to figure out the reasons some plugins work and other don't within Acid.
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ACIDon 8/11/2021
Don't know how bad your host is with plugins until you tried another
@Rednroll Because of non-working VSTs in different DAWs I bought Plogue Bidule which is a plugin that can load any other plugin and combine them with a graphical node interface. You can build extensive networks with your plugins and save your graphs and load them in any audio software just by inserting Bidule as a plugin..It also runs as a standalone application. With this tool you can work around every lackluster plugin or routing implementation in any DAW. If a DAW is missing an important feature I just load Bidule and a plugin that provides this features and I'm good to go and I can stay with the tools I know and like to use and don't need to switch the DAW. Thank you for the suggestion. Honestly, I like working in Vegas Pro much more than I do in Acid Pro in regards to working with strictly audio. If they would have added the Midi and Loop sequencing from Acid into Vegas or the full functionality of Vegas's audio capabilities into Acid, or even the capability to Rewire Acid to Vegas, I would have been a very happy camper. I've been pushing for that since the Sonic Foundry days. It just aint going to happen. Add these plugin weaknesses with Acid and it just throws another nail in it's coffin for me. Now that I'm coming up to speed on Reaper's customization capabilities, I am starting to see a clearer path of finally getting that combined capability, along with the interface that I like in Acid and Vegas. Below is link of a .gif showing a preview of a customization I just completed in Reaper. You may notice it's very Acid/Vegas like. 😀 I configured Reaper so that when I double click on the bottom half of an audio event, up pops a custom toolbar I created which includes the functions I often use when right clicking on an audio event in Vegas/Acid. Reaper also lets me do the same type of thing when clicking on the top half of the audio waveform of creating yet another custom toolbar which will pop up. I'm still working on creating that one where I will likely include take management and event grouping features just like in Acid/Vegas. https://i.postimg.cc/g2ZgL54F/Media-Switch-and-Channels.gif I don't work with loops a lot but I do really like Acid's pencil and erasure tool when I do. I'm still figuring out Reaper's similar loop paradigm and will be attempting to configure that as well, but if I'm unable to achieve that similarity, unlike Vegas I know I could always run Acid Pro as a Rewire slave to Reaper and just reserve my uses with Acid of what it originally started off as, a loop sequencer. In regards to Midi, Reaper's midi is already very similar to Acid's. Plus I'll add, my Behringer X-Touch One HW controller works much better with Reaper than it does with Acid and Vegas.
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