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jdonnel5 wrote on 4/1/2021, 7:59 PM

Thanks for all your help

jdonnel5 wrote on 4/1/2021, 8:01 PM

I'm using a nVidia geforce 2080 graphics card with 8 gigs of memory

 

jdonnel5 wrote on 4/1/2021, 8:05 PM

Monitor is hooked up to hdmi port the mother board is a durolast gaming board ill need to look up the exact specs

jdonnel5 wrote on 4/1/2021, 8:42 PM

Z390 Gaming X-CF

Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080

32 Gigs of memory

I9-900k @ 3600 MHz

and I am using HDMI for monitor

CubeAce wrote on 4/2/2021, 4:25 AM

@jdonnel5

Hi.

Do you mean this motherboard? It's by Gigabyte. Are you plugged into that boards HDMI port or the graphics card's ports? You are also now say you have 32 GB of memory. Earlier you said you had 64 GB of memory.

However, My earlier 'fix' only seems to work on the static 3D text and not the animated 3D text and in my copy of VPX 11 I can edit 3D text but not get it to animate so at this point I am going to raise a ticket with technical support once I can put a video up showing the problem to show Magix. I will also put the video up here to show the others what we both seem to be suffering as soon as I have time. For now can you at least edit a 3D static text without a problem or is it just the animated versions?

I am still of the opinion that a possible Windows update has caused this but Magix may be unaware of the problem.

The fact I can replicate the problem convinces me there is something wrong but I can't get to the bottom of it.

That John EB can't replicate the problem but only has a six core processor makes me wonder.

Other animated titles that are not 3D are not effected.

I will get back as soon as I have made the video and raised a ticket with Magix.

Ray.

 

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Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 4/2/2021, 5:11 AM

@jdonnel5, @CubeAce

Hi

. . . . Monitor is hooked up to hdmi port the mother board . . . .

This could be why I am not seeing the issue - I have dual monitors, one connected to the motherboard (uses the Intel GPU) and the other connected to my RTX 2060.

As you have no monitor connected to the RTX this could be an issue.

Does your monitor have a second input?

If so connect it so one input is connected to the motherboard and the other to the RTX, you may have to swap cables over, however this does not matter so long as you ensure that in Windows settings, System, Display that the Multiple displays option is set to Duplicate.

HTH

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

CubeAce wrote on 4/2/2021, 12:51 PM

@jdonnel5 @johnebaker

Hi.

Is this what you are experiencing jdonnel (only with the Movie Edit Pro section)?

I have raised a ticket with Magix about this.

Ray.

Last changed by CubeAce on 4/2/2021, 1:12 PM, changed a total of 2 times.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

johnebaker wrote on 4/2/2021, 2:11 PM

Hi Ray

Following your method, I have tested both MEP 2021 and VPX 12 .

On my PC I can replicate the issue, however not consistently - ie they will lockup randomly, other times they work fine.

On my laptop MEP will lock up randomly however VPX 12 doesn't lock up at all

Additionally MEP, PC or laptop, does not open the Xara 3D editor whereas VPX does.

John EB

VPX 16, Movie Studio 2025, and earlier versions 2015 and 2016, Music Maker Premium 2024.

PC - running Windows 11 23H2 Professional on Intel i7-8700K 3.2 GHz, 16GB RAM, RTX 2060 6GB 192-bit GDDR6, 1 x 1Tb Sabrent NVME SSD (OS and programs), 2 x 4TB (Data) internal HDD + 1TB internal SSD (Work disc), + 6 ext backup HDDs.

Laptop - Lenovo Legion 5i Phantom - running Windows 11 24H2 on Intel Core i7-10750H, 16GB DDR4-SDRAM, 512GB SSD, 43.9 cm screen Full HD 1920 x 1080, Intel UHD 630 iGPU and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6)

Sony FDR-AX53e Video camera, DJI Osmo Action 3 and Sony HDR-AS30V Sports cams.

CubeAce wrote on 4/2/2021, 3:05 PM

@johnebaker @jdonnel5

Hi John.

As far as I'm aware MEP has never opened Xara 3D Editor although it shows up in task manager.

In VPX it came up as MAGIX 3D Maker, not Xara 3D editor and in task manager it comes up as X 3D in both programs. If either program crashes and I have to shut down either via Task Manager, the X 3D app stays active whereas if you can close either video editor X3D closes with the editor.

Just pulling down a 3D title though never used to automatically open the 3D editor in VPX.

I remember when I had MEP 2018 I had trouble with 3D texts not importing after a Windows update and it would not work for a long time and then one day (possibly after another Windows update) it suddenly worked again. I also noticed that MAGIX 3D Maker is a 32 bit program.

I have also noticed the animated giffs that program produces can be played and are animated in the timeline and can be stretched to length but they need to have the Chroma Key Editor used on them. Importing an X3D file that X3D produced and saved, then placing it on the timeline opens the X3D app and brings up the text editing box and the whole program freezes again.

My copy of VPX 11 is no longer locking up since I took it off of Windows Graphics Settings when using 3D titles. Nor has it slowed it down in any way. It's just the animated titles in VPX also don't animate.

Anyway, Ive sent the ticket to the Magix technical department. Hopefully they may know something.

 

Will await reply.

Ray.

Last changed by CubeAce on 4/3/2021, 3:18 AM, changed a total of 2 times.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

jdonnel5 wrote on 4/2/2021, 8:51 PM

I have tried everything no luck. Thanks Ray for letting magix know. I also have Xara 3D 7 it works just fine but not magix movie edit pro

CubeAce wrote on 4/6/2021, 3:42 AM

@jdonnel5 @johnebaker

I have had a reply from the Magix staff this morning.

It reads.

Thank you for your message.

-------------------------------------------
The problem you described has already been recognized by our technical support team and has been forwarded to the developers.

They are currently working on a solution to the problem.

-------------------------------------------

Along with with the other identified bugs / problems I assume. So whether there will be a fix for this in the current versions of the program I have no idea. It looks like for now another confirmed bug for John CB to add to the list of bugs that need to be fixed.

Sorry there is no immediate work around.

Ray.

 

Windows 10 Enterprise. Version 22H2 OS build 19045.5737

Direct X 12.1 latest hardware updates for Western Digital hard drives.

Asus ROG STRIX Z390-F Gaming motherboard Rev 1.xx with Supreme FX inboard audio using the S1220A code. Driver No 6.0.8960.1 Bios version 1401

Intel i9900K Coffee Lake 3.6 to 5.1GHz CPU with Intel UHD 630 Graphics .Driver version Graphics Driver 31.0.101.2135 for 7th-10th Gen Intel® with 64GB of 3200MHz Corsair DDR4 ram.

1000 watt EVGA modular power supply.

1 x 250GB Evo 970 NVMe: drive for C: drive backup 1 x 1TB Sabrent NVMe drive for Operating System / Programs only. 1X WD BLACK 1TB internal SATA 7,200rpm hard drives.1 for internal projects, 1 for Library clips/sounds/music/stills./backup of working projects. 1x500GB SSD current project only drive, 2x WD RED 2TB drives for latest footage storage. Total 31TB of 10 external WD drives for backup.

ASUS NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12GB. nVidia Studio driver version 572.60 - 3584xCUDA cores Direct X 12.1. Memory interface 192bit Memory bandwidth 360.05GB/s 12GB of dedicated GDDR6 video memory, shared system memory 16307MB PCi Express x8 Gen3. Two Samsung 27" LED SA350 monitors with 5000000:1 contrast ratios at 60Hz.

Running MMS 2024 Suite v 23.0.1.182 (UDP3) and VPX 14 - v20.0.3.180 (UDP3)

M Audio Axiom AIR Mini MIDI keyboard Ver 5.10.0.3507

VXP 14, MMS 2024 Suite, Vegas Studio 16, Vegas Pro 18, Vegas Pro 21,Cubase 4. CS6, NX Studio, Mixcraft 9 Recording Studio. Mixcraft Pro 10 Studio. CS6 and DXO Photolab 8, OBS Studio.

Audio System 5 x matched bi-wired 150 watt Tannoy Reveal speakers plus one Tannoy 15" 250 watt sub with 5.1 class A amplifier. Tuned to room with Tannoy audio application.

Ram Acoustic Studio speakers amplified by NAD amplifier.

Rogers LS7 speakers run from Cambridge Audio P50 amplifier

Schrodinger's Backup. "The condition of any backup is unknown until a restore is attempted."

jdonnel5 wrote on 4/6/2021, 5:44 AM

Thanks for your work Ray maybe in the future

hippop11 wrote on 6/7/2021, 4:04 PM

@emmrecs @johnebaker @jdonnel5

Hi jdonnel.

I can confirm this behaviour.

Sorry it has taken so long but eventually I decided to try them for myself.

After exhaustive tests using the 3D Decorative Basic templates at a lot of various frame rates and resolutions that the program freezes and becomes completely unresponsive having to be shut down via the task manager.

I have not tried other 3D titles such as the animated ones but suspect some other effects are also not holding such as Simple Geometry and Popular Shapes.

Can anyone else confirm for a bug report?

Ray.

I have the exact same problem.