As soon as i add a 3D title, movie edit pro 2021 become very slow and it is almost impossible to work with?
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d_emond
wrote on 10/21/2020, 10:26 AM
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CubeAce
wrote on 10/21/2020, 12:36 PM
Hi.
Yes, that can be the case. The more an effect needs to use a GPU for processing a given effect, the more impact it will have on performance. If you open task manager while running the program you can see how much extra processing power is needed as effects are added while they try to process the information in real time. You can try using proxy files and pre-rendering to bring back smoother playback if the system is not strong enough to process the effects in real time. It helps, but there are limits where performance may still lag.
This is why we ask people for their computer specs along with information on the files they use.
It's unfortunate that Magix never explains in detail that performance gains on new versions of their programs also heavily relies on their computer meeting all of the minimum requirements on the programs specification pages.
Ray.
johnebaker
wrote on 10/21/2020, 12:52 PM
Hi
. . . . become very slow and it is almost impossible to work with . . . .
What is you computer specification - see this topic for details of what is required and my signature as an example and what is the format and resolution of the video you are working with?
John EB
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d_emond
wrote on 10/21/2020, 2:25 PM
My computer HP Desktop, Windows 10, Intel I7-4770, 16Gb Memory, Intel HD Graphics 4600.
Its not the playback the problem, as soon as i put one basic static 3D title in my project movie edit pro become very slow when i continue working on the time line of my project.
CubeAce
wrote on 10/21/2020, 2:47 PM
Hi.
That is what I'd define as playback. Within MEP. It's not just the file you play back but the effect is also rendering in real time as the clip plays back. That's what slows down the playback. The extra GPU load (or CPU if no suitable GPU is present). As far as I'm aware Intel HD Graphics 4600 is not supported in MEP 2021 so it's being done by the CPU in software. Also adding the effect will increase the amount of ram loaded to play the project. The whole thing can get bogged down pretty quickly. I'd say the minimum amount of ram should be 16GB at least for ram and if no suitable Intel GPU then at least a suitable 4GB nvidia graphics card.
This is a step up from the requirements required for MEP 2019.
Ray.
johnebaker
wrote on 10/21/2020, 3:01 PM
. . . . As far as I'm aware Intel HD Graphics 4600 is not supported in MEP 2021 . . . .
AFAICS it is on my laptop, however there are restrictions - see below.
Hi
. . . . . as soon as i put one basic static 3D title in my project movie edit pro become very slow . . . .
That unfortunately is a result of your desktop is somewhat underpowered for running MEP 2021, especially if the source video is of higher resolution than Full HD (1920 x 1080), and/or is HEVC video
There are some steps you can check/use to mitigate some of the slowness:-
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Preview monitor - ensure the Lighting symbol bottom right corner is blue, if not click it, this will reduce the resolution and frame rate of the preview - it does not affect exporting.
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Proxy files - turn these on in the project settings, this will create new lower resolution and lower compression MXV files which do not put so much load on the processor - do note these files can take up a lot of hard drive space and may take some time to create. They are only for use on the timeline, the original video clips are used for export.
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Hardware Acceleration (HWA) - assuming there is no NVidia or AMD graphics card in the computer (they are another ball game) , this will only be useable for MPEG-2, MP4 (h.264 encoded) and AVCHD (.m2ts file extension) source video up to Full HD (1920 x 1080) resolution source video.
Higher resolution eg 2.7K or 4K will slow down the computer considerably and HEVC (h.265) is not supported by the HD4600.
If your source videos are any combination of the supported formats and resolution check the Program Settings, Import/Export tab, Hardware acceleration options (2) are checked.
With all the above you will still get some slowdown of the computer as you add in more video tracks and effects such as collages, Intro/Outro effects and effects which adjust the colour/brightness/contrast etc etc put a heavy load on the computer.
HTH
John EB
CubeAce
wrote on 10/21/2020, 3:16 PM
Hi John.
Intel arc puts the Intel HD Graphics 4600 as older than HD 520 that the MEP specs page puts as minimum requirement. So that is where I came up with my reply more than from personal experience. I don't know if it is just an H265 limitation or not. Sorry if that is the case.
I think in a previous post @d_emond eluded to using4K footage.
I had suggested the use of Proxy files or pre-rendering earlier as possibly helpful.
Ray.
johnebaker
wrote on 10/21/2020, 3:59 PM
Hi Ray
No need to apologise, the HD4600 was the very first Intel GPU that MEP and VPX could use for Hardware acceleration.
. . . . in a previous post @d_emond eluded to using4K footage . . .
You are correct I missed that topic.
@d_emond if the source video is 4K UHD then the computer is unfortunately below the minimum spec for working with this resolution video.
If you are not exporting as 4K video ie exporting at a lower resolution eg 1920 x 1080 and/or creating Blu-ray or DVD's, there is a potential, however time and disk space consuming workaround which I can use when necesary if I am working on my laptop, and that is to use a video converter to create 1920 x 1080 copies of the video file(s) and work with these.
John EB
d_emond
wrote on 10/21/2020, 4:20 PM
Thanks you all for a fast response, it looks like that i will need to upgrade my desktop for better performance.